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$ecr8ts, tricks, strategy, advice tips(making more $ by working smart not hard)

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Perfect touch landscapes, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. Perfect touch landscapes

    Perfect touch landscapes LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 254

    Sorry, I am not looking for your approval, I am posting a sincere answer to your questions. If you want to charge top dollar for your services you need to appear as professional as possible, one way to do that is to use the spell check. Merry Christmas to you.

    I should meet you on friday or saturday night at about 12.00 am in the moring with a shot of Vodka in your hand and talk to you about being proffesional. I am not here to solicit clientelle. I am chilling and shooting the breeze with out my company shirt on and Steel toe boots. I apreaciate your advice but it didn't come as an advice more like a sissy out of the blue pinch. If you care to see some of our work and decide if it is proffesional you let me know , I had single jobs that payed more then your years worth of income.
  2. XLS

    XLS LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,038

    PERFECT was that ment toward me or the other guy ? who many people do you have working under you , not beside you ????
  3. zturncutter

    zturncutter LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,308

    He quoted me XLS, it was meant for me.
  4. XLS

    XLS LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,038

    It also depends on the individual setup as to the ease of success
  5. brucec32

    brucec32 LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,403

    Was this composed using some sort of translation software?

  6. XLS

    XLS LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,038

    i could shock people on how low a startup cost a true business needs , i love it on here how everyone says it cant be done and i look back long before i came to ls and its working fine at most points i love it . lol
  7. meets1

    meets1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,850

    In my area market dicates all else. Skid loader for example: The top dog excavatioin contractor charges $110 / an LS175 NH. People pay that cuz he knows how to run his equipment and the people think he is faster than all the rest with skids cuz he plays in the dirt all day everyday. I charge out at $90 and hour and get balked at cuz I am an LCO/landscaper/contractor and my skid is not worth what his skid is.

    I can drive 30 miles down the highway and prices change drasticly - how do I know - cuz I have another lawn care business in a neighboring town. It is what people expect to pay and what they beleive the worth is to them. Example - I ran out of greenery for our seasonal lighting that we do. I called a local nursery where I get alot from every year and they quoted me a price with my discount - I thought a little high - so I called the local flower shop - same stuff - same vender - in fact there delivery man goes from florist then to this nuresry - The floral shop at full retail price is cheaper than what the nursery quoted - now where are you going to buy the greenery if you were me?

    I am in small town USA - people are going to pay so much and that is it. I wish I had 40 accounts that were 5-10 acres a piece but those type of places in my area are far and few.
  8. XLS

    XLS LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,038

    Perfect ill talk if you let me in on a few of your standard practices
  9. XLS

    XLS LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,038

    meets 1 what is to say you are worth $90 no one but you can say if you can do it cheaper but if you just aint worth it then it isnt for you , its called jumping in on a hunch
  10. Perfect touch landscapes

    Perfect touch landscapes LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 254

    i must hit on this . a company can very much so charge less then $40 per hour per person . most successfull LCO's will agree it we chose not to .
    its the smart opperators who come to find ways to offer lower rates and opperate more effecintlly to offset the $$$$ see i can tell a lady ill send a guy out to mow her lawn for $35.00 per hour and if it takes him 2 or 3 hours to complete it then he hasnt lost the company any money ,it is just he hasnt added much value to the company if the same guy cuts 3 out there and another man cuts 1 block over the same size lawns for 40.00
    all he has done is made more profit .when time comes and a new unit is brough in and 2 guys cut them all in one day it is now prductivly creating a higher per hour rate of 120-220 per hour it is about qulity production .

    we often bid a larger lawn at say $38.00 per hour with a 48" walker then turn around and mow it with a 60"z and knock it out in less then half the time bringing the per hour rate it a round 70.00 per on a one man crew

    I see what you saying and you brought a good point in some way, but the way I look at it, why get 1000 customers where 500 you do it for nothing and 500 make you the profit.
    Guy cutting lawn with walk behind for an hour is not just loss for 35.00 , it means he can't relax or take it easy later on in the day because he needs to catch up on his slack. I know what it like to mow with walk behind for an hour. Do you start charging customer by the hour mowing that lawn for 35.00 when guys unload or when you are starting to head towards their property. 35 an hour i dont see how that account even gives you a flush you pay that customer money to do their lawn. My rule of thumb is 1.00 per men per hour. BEcause if you trully calculate overhead it is about 1/3 of that.
    if your do for 35.00 then you are doing it for .25c a minute. STop stop for a secont, who drove that guy there to the job, whos trailer he came to job in, what about yearly lights, wires , welds, tires, paint, washing, you have to do to keep that trailer running.What about traveling time, what if he got stuck in traffic for 20 minutes. What if he had to stop and take a piss at gas station and buy smokes. I belive that every customer has to bring you pure profit not some. I dont live thinking that tomorrow new guys or new customers will make it better or make me money. I might not be alive tomorrow or we might have a ww3 break out, so every account every stop counts, and if you calculate in the end of year what difference it makes you will be amazed.

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