Why on earth do you folks spend so much on equipment. spinning off another thread: In my humble opinion you paid too much for your truck and skidsteer, and trailer. Why guys like me sell jobs for less, with good profit: Truck 17k trailer 2k -equipment trailer 4k (16 foot dump, hauls ex) 5 ton ex 24k CTL 29k dump truck -per load as needed 75-90 a load matls deliv - supplier provided save labor vs fetching matls Ive got more equip, for less money. and its not out of date, 2005 truck (cummins 5.9) 2007 CTL (600 hrs) 2005 5 ton ex (2500 hrs) 2005 ish trailers. 79K vs your 200k, my overhead is probally 1500 a month lower than yours, and I have an excavator in this list. now I don't have cabbed units, power windows, etc. But I can still get to the job, look professional and move the earth just as well.