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Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by SVA_Concrete, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. SVA_Concrete

    SVA_Concrete LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 467

    Why on earth do you folks spend so much on equipment.

    spinning off another thread:

    In my humble opinion you paid too much for your truck and skidsteer, and trailer.

    Why guys like me sell jobs for less, with good profit:

    Truck 17k
    trailer 2k -equipment
    trailer 4k (16 foot dump, hauls ex)
    5 ton ex 24k
    CTL 29k
    dump truck -per load as needed 75-90 a load
    matls deliv - supplier provided save labor vs fetching matls

    Ive got more equip, for less money. and its not out of date,
    2005 truck (cummins 5.9)
    2007 CTL (600 hrs)
    2005 5 ton ex (2500 hrs)
    2005 ish trailers.

    79K vs your 200k, my overhead is probally 1500 a month lower than yours, and I have an excavator in this list.

    now I don't have cabbed units, power windows, etc. But I can still get to the job, look professional and move the earth just as well.
  2. Ticolawnllc

    Ticolawnllc LawnSite Senior Member
    from Wall NJ
    Messages: 411

    I think lots of guys like some of my family brag how much they pay as a way of bragging.
  3. Stuttering Stan

    Stuttering Stan LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,504

    When people are new to the business, they want all the big, cool toys.
    With this newbie mentality, overhead and profit are relative unknowns. After a few years, , the newness wears off and reality sets in. Gently used equipment is sold for next to nothing.
  4. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,576

    We still run our first skid steer, a 1997. She purrs better than any new skid steer out there.

    Our dump truck is a 2001 that I bought new. Been Paid for for eons.

    I just bought a 14,000 GVW trailer. 4 years old, owned by an old man, the decking doesn't have a scratch on it. paid $3000.00 cash.

    My company truck - is. 2004 with 252,000 miles! I have no intentions of replacing it.

    I'm as low overhead as one can be. If you're a local contractor in my area and your prices are lower than mine - then you won't be around much longer.
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  5. Birchwood

    Birchwood LawnSite Member
    Messages: 218

    My mowing crews setup ran less then 15k
    truck 5500
    trailer 3500
    3 mowers 2500
    misc all new handhelds 1500

    Install crew setup ran around 10k
    my dump was $2800 and runs great!

    Bank owns nothing, been there done that.

    86 f350 before.jpg

    97 f250.jpg

    enclosed trailer finished.jpg

    86 f350 dump.jpg
  6. muddywater

    muddywater LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,813

    And that 200k worth of equipment is worth about 80k in a couple years. Talk bout taking it in the pants.
  7. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,665

    I'd buy a 97' f350 in a heartbeat but I just can't seem to find one with nav and bluetooth so I'll stick with the truck I have. But I'm all for recycling, its nice to see that someone buys the used crap I get rid of. :)
  8. Krafty

    Krafty LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from St. Louis MO
    Messages: 706

    Zedo I can't wait till 2025 when I can own a 2012 like yours!!:drinkup::drinkup:
  9. sven1277

    sven1277 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 678

    I'm not sure used stuff is always a better value. I have purchased my '00 pickup twice now since I bought it new in repairs I've done to it in the last 3 yrs. Transmission, new engine, another transmission, frame work, starter, brakes, water pump, thermostat, raidator, plugs, wires, exhaust work, tires. I should have traded it in back in '09 when it started getting expensive. Oh well, you win some, you lose some.
  10. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,576

    A) u probably didnt know what you were buying

    B) perhaps the truck is undersized for what you're using it for

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