Just drove one around and it looks and felt cheap and had a very high center of gravity. We are going to get a Gravely 144Z but our friend sell's Encore and grasshopper ztr's so we figured we would drive the encore around. I feel bad not buying from him because we are good friends and he is giving it to me at his cost if I want it for $4,400. MSRP is $5,469. I just dont feel this machine is worth the money. I am going to get the 144Z for $4,990. I just feel bad!