Encore double take... ironic

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Envy Lawn Service, Aug 28, 2004.

  1. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    OK guys, I've held my peace about this for a while. But I can no longer stand not to tell a story and most importantly, pose a serious question.

    My family and I went out for dinner one late afternoon. As we were driving we past a hotel something caught my eye as well as my wife's. It was a trailer hooked to a van, loaded with red mowers I did not recognize... and both of us were so taken by a drive by that we had to turn around for a close up look... LOL!!!

    Anyways, this must have been a rep or distributor out with some demo/prototype mowers... the van was totally decked out in Shindawia trim.. The mowers were solid red... well sorta red-orange.

    Holy cow were these mowers ever rather intimidating looking, even the smaller one. I thought wow. Of course by the title of this thread you know, but to my surprise these were Encore Z's. They were not the 'online' color scheme nor did they really look the build of what you see on their site. But I was able to recognize one was certainly a Prowler Mid-Cut and the other a Z-Series 48" or 52"....

    The point I'm trying to make is, these were the two most visually impressive mowers I have EVER laid eyes on in my life. Beefcake and Brawny if you will. A whole big bunch of thick steel and a very heavy, impressive, beefy build...

    So the question is this...
    I recall a whole lot of trash talk about Encore mowers being of flimsy build, ect... So now I'm forced to ask... have any of you guys ever laid eyes on these mowers, other than on their website?

    I ask this because the impression I had stored in my mind just got blown away that day. I wish I would have had a camera with me at the time to snap some pictures of them for you guys to see...
  2. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
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    I've seen a few at shows and what-not. There's also one a few blocks away from me. They just look like your average run of the mill mower to me.
  3. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
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    It's not what meets the eye, it's what you DON'T see that breaks on commercial units. They can take a Sherman tank, and if it has weaker hydro pumps, motors, and other componentry like bearings and such, it's going to go down. Remember, they keep these costs down SOMEhow. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.
  4. pcnservices

    pcnservices LawnSite Senior Member
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    Envy, You're right.
    Yes I have seen them. I use Encore and are very involved with them too. Between our lco's (that owns and uses Encore) here in town we run prototype units for testing purposes all the time. What better testing ground can they have than having lco's run their machines on the front end.
    The new 2004 line-up of Encore's mower is a totally different deal.
    They changed the color to a more aggressive looking red, new molded side tanks with cup holders and the engine on the 52" and 61" Prowlers is a 28hp and 31 hp Vangaurd engines. More horse power, very quiet low revving engines. They all comes standard with suspension seats. New steering control boxes for smoother operation. Foot lift deck assist, etc.

  5. Mark McC

    Mark McC LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I don't know zip about zeroes, but the Encore Z48 lists a drive system consisting of "2 - Hydrogear Pumps, belt driven." Is that standard?
  6. pcnservices

    pcnservices LawnSite Senior Member
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    Here's my 52" with Encore manufacturing's 72" This is still the old (probably not too attractive) style.
    It gets used between about a half dozen lco's and we mow anything from pastures to ditches to sportfields randomly on a weekly basis - we just keep it full of gas and sharpen the blades. The lawn pictured was mowed with the 72".
    Any new component that needs testing, gets installed and tested on this mower. Currently they have a 33hp Vangaurd l/c motor on it. The construction and frame on this 72" is NO different than on the 52" - they're exactly the same. I dont know how old and how many hours on this mower - but till today no structural damage like cracks, bend frames etc.

  7. MMLawn

    MMLawn LawnSite Gold Member
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    My Toro dealer who also sells Encore told me that the same guy that started and developed Exmark and then sold it is the same guy that now owns and started Encore.
  8. pcnservices

    pcnservices LawnSite Senior Member
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  9. MMLawn

    MMLawn LawnSite Gold Member
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    He also told me that the 3 slashes on their logo stood for the 3rd lawn mower company the owner has been involved with.
  10. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    Correct... First FD Kees (Yazoo/Kees)... Then eXmark... Now Encore...

    An interesting conversation piece I have posed before which was promptly dismissed here...

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