lawnman,<p>We use all Exmark mowers-walkbehind and ZTR. We've got the dealer for them and that's 1/2 the decision. ExMark's innovation is also part. I like some other brands as well, but the dealer makes the whole thing go for me.
hello gang! I think it's time I weighed in on the lesco issue. I use an older 48 in. belt that has done an awsome job. I've used (abused as necessary while I was trying to build my buisness) for three years and the machine had lived a full life with a pro-contractor before I bought it. it's probably at least eight years old and still striping! the darned thing is tough as nails, built like a rock, hasn't been to the shop since I've owned it! I've maintained the thing loyally and have had so few problems that I actually don't mind performing preventive maintainance for what it costs. I'm looking to pick up a newer (almost new) hydro unit and I'm looking at all models including lesco. I'd buy another in a heartbeat, BUT, I wouldn't sell the farm to pay more for a lesco! there are lots of great machines to choose from out there including lesco.<p>lawnman--I've never used an encore but I've looked at them. I think I'd prefer to go with a little higher end mower. I use the front caster arms as one of the indicators to look at. tube steel for casters doesn't seem to be the way to go for me. I like the rigidity of cast iron, like on my machine. good luck! <p>if I were going to buy a new machine, I'd have to consider the dealer service after the sale. I'm not too convinced that my lesco dealer would rate very high in service after the sale, including quick turn around and a loaner machine. they only got one repairman and he's usually not there when I am. sorry guys if you are online. Iduno, lesco service is something that I hear alot of complaints about.<p>eric, did you get my e-mail about the toro? price is good but I think I need to go hydro.<p>the days are getting longer, lets all get ready to go get 'em!<p>GEO
From what I have heard, and READ in a trade magzine(can't remember which one, will look for article later)<br>In October 1996, LESCO announced a joint venture with MTD<br> Products Inc. The joint venture, Commercial Turf Products, Ltd.<br> (CTP), elevates LESCO to the front ranks of equipment producers<br> with world-class manufacturing capability and the expertise to<br> innovate. Full production began in early 1998 in a newly-acquired<br> plant in Streetsboro, Ohio.<br>This is copied directly from the Lesco website.<p>I have looked briefly at the Lesco and MTD lines of commercial equipment, and they are not the same as the MTD that most are thinking of, the home center mowers. They are heavy duty commercial units with features comprable to other similar mowers.<p>I don't own a Lesco mower, but do won a couple of small pieces of their equipment. As far as the service level there, it is second to none. I have spent maybe $1000 at Lesco over the years, and I get treated better there than at a dealer that I spent $10,000 at.
concerning the lesco equip. Iwould'nt have one on my truck I operated them for a company in Dallas doing stictly apartment complexes did not stripe good worked my but off, and continous problems. I now own a wright stander for my own business , stripes well very manuverable, easily operable, and has presented no problems, in my opion a great machine i'm 50 yrs. old and the ease and speed of operation is easy on me love it good luck<p>----------<br>Dale Robins owner<br>Southern lawn and Landscape
moonarrow--I'll agree with you that there are machines out there that are easier to operate than my lesco belt drive 48. but if you own a piece of equipment that lays down a prettier stripe than my lesco I'd like to see it! post us a couple of pics if you got 'em. have a great day!<p>GEO
Geo, this is just the opposite of what was posted on the old forum. A friend of mine has a Lesco and says it stripes great and there was a Thread on the old forum wondering why his stander sucked at striping. If I remember right, several had the same problem. I only know of one company around us using them and their lawns look horrible. Maybe they don't have them set up right or something. Anyway, John we believe you, but like Geo said, if you could post some pictures, we would like to see them. If you don't have a site, email me a picture and I'll post it on my site for you and link it to your profiles if you want. We aren't getting any snow up here, so I have plenty of time. I'll even coach you through making your own web pages. I'm no expert, but I have a site, thanks to Chuck Smith. Feel free to check out Dixie Chopper stripes. <p>----------<br>Eric@ELM<br>http://pages.prodigy.net/eric.erickson/index.html
The old rigid deck, deep formed steel deck Lesco's striped really nice. (ie. Bobcat, exMark, etc.) The new floating, shallow stamped deck (MTD "innovation" doesn't put down much of a stripe. (ie. Toro)
It's the Great Dane Stander that I have heard and personally seen have problems with striping. Moonarrow has the Wright Stander which is a different machine. I have never heard anything good or bad about thw Wright machine, maybe moonarrow could give us a review because it appears to be a better machine.
Does any one here use Encore equipment? It looks liked the consensus in 2000 was that they scalped badly. How about now? They do cost less than most others, and i know the old saying," Ya get what ya pay for". But are they that horrible? If so then why are they still in business?
I was doing some research on 42-48" fixed deck gear drive walks with at least a 15hp. Kaw. Some prices that i revived from local dealers are as follows,
Toro 44" Pistol Grip 15 Kaw. $3600.
Scag 48" 15 Kaw. $2800. I thought this was a damn good price!
Exmark 48" Metro ECS 15 Kaw.$3699.
John Deere 48" 14 Kaw. $2725.
Encore 48" Premier 15 Kaw. $2489.
Now, i certainly can think of several other things i could spend that left over money on, but do you guys think going the Encore route, i would be spending that left over money on repair bills for this more economical mower? Is it, " Pay me now, or pay me later" scenario?