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Engine Opinions, Please

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by GPDesign1, Dec 2, 2004.

  1. GPDesign1

    GPDesign1 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 426

    We're bringing out a version of our Quick 36 mower for next season with a 16HP Premium engine and I'd really appreciate some feedback from you guys.

    Here's the deal:

    We were planning on using a Briggs 16 ELS (Extended Life Series) engine which has great features. It has all the cool stuff you expect in a commercial-grade engine. Sleeve, heavy flywheel, electric start, big charging system, platinum plug, pressure lube w/ spin-on filter, fuel pump w/filter, washable air filter, big muffler, etc. World-Class product.

    We've also been talking with Kohler on and off. They visited with us at GIE, looked at our machine and have made us a price on their 16. Basically the same specs as the Briggs. Pricing for the Kohler came in less than the Briggs (by a good bit) which helps us keep our price down for you.

    Later, Briggs came back and matched the Kohler price.

    Both are excellent engines, but we want to build what you want to buy. So tell me; Briggs ELS or Kohler?


    PS: The results of this poll will be sent directly to the VP of Commercial Sales at both Briggs and Kohler when it's finished.
  2. out4now

    out4now LawnSite Bronze Member
    from AZ
    Messages: 1,796

    If it's between those two I'd go with Briggs. Had bad luck with Kholers at the school district. Never really been a Briggs fan either, personally I'd go for a Kawi but that's just my personal opinon.
  3. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,360

    Based on recent info about Briggs newer comm'l motors, I wouldn't be afraid to use them. But, I don't know what others will think hearing about a Briggs on your machine. Why not use both and see which sells better for next season, then you will have data for the following years.
  4. wissel_landscaping

    wissel_landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 262

    I'm not a fan of either engine, why not honda or kawasaki?
    honestly if i was looking to buy a 36" and they only offered kohler & briggs i would look at a brand that offered honda or kawi.
  5. mpblass

    mpblass LawnSite Member
    Messages: 37

    I wouldnt buy anything other than a Kohler or a Kawasaki.
  6. geogunn

    geogunn LawnSite Gold Member
    from TN
    Messages: 3,010

    gary--I don't have ownership experience with either the briggs or kohler engines you are talking about.

    but for a nice mower, the kohler has more name recognition. so I dunno.

    the briggs motors you are talking about aren't the same as those on the tractor type chain store mowers, are they??? thanks.

    GEO :)
  7. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,699

    It would have to be Kohler. I am a huge fan of enhanced air cleaner abilities and there is currently a turbo precleaner available for the smaller Kohlers. There is nothing for Briggs engines.
  8. naturescaretaker

    naturescaretaker LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 854


    I hear that Pratt & Whitney is adapting this for the new 21" Craftsmen... The problem seems to be with the rear bagger attactment and keeping it from catching on fire. Tim Allen would be proud ;-)
  9. CharlieBingo

    CharlieBingo LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 400

    If it's a Briggs Vanguard, good motor, any other model briggs you'll be playing mechanic, not landscaper!
  10. Travis Followell

    Travis Followell LawnSite Silver Member
    from KY
    Messages: 2,206

    For the same price you should definately go with Kohler. They both may have the same features but when it comes to power the 16 Kohler would leave the 16 Briggs in the dust. Kohler builds a much better engine and even better than any Japanese engine. We won't buy a mower that doesn't have a Kohler engine.

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