Well, since the very first time I ever saw a Toro Z Master mow in anything but drought conditions, I have had such dis-taste for Toro that I said I would NEVER own a Toro. The SFS deck performs very poorly in teh conditions around my neck of the woods. However, the ad I saw in Turf Mag about the new Turbo Force deck has had my interest up in Toro. So I checked into it a while back. Today when I came in for lunch I had a message that the new machine had arived for me to check it out. As luck would have it, I was going to be mowing an account that afternoon within just a few miles of the dealer. Anyways, when I got nearby, I went ahead and stopped by. I thought I might take one out fo a demo. But to my disappointment, they only had 2 units. The Z500 (20 Kohler/52) and teh Z553 (23 Kohler 60). I am in the market for a 60" so the 52" was out, no sense in it at all since I already have a 48" mower. Also the 23/60 combo was a no go for me too as I feel sure it would be too weak for my application. So I didn't take one "out" for a demo. But I did check one out there. I must say this mower is vast improvment over anything Toro has ever built. Beginning with the deck, even though it is not totally fabricated, it certainly does not fall into the stamped classification. The portion that is not totally fabricated is the front. The deck top appears to be cut to size for stamping and the better term to use is that the front is rolled down to form a 1 piece front and top. From tat point the sides and rear are welded on. A generous amount of wear plate is also welded to the deck. A J shaped channel is welded to the front, forming a u channel out front and a lip inside the deck at the same time, for the prevention of blowout. It looks just like if you had taken a J and laid it over to the right. All the steel is 7 guage, 50,000 psi min yeild strength. The rubber discharge chute is a simple stroke of genius because not only is it flexable, it is actually functional as well. Why? Because it does not direct the clippings right down to the ground like conventional chutes. It allows discharge straight out instead of down. Another nice feature is the new design of the belt/spindle covers. They feature 2 quick release latches that just unlatch for instant access for clening the area and greasing the spindles. But the best part is these latches are fixed to the covers so the latches don't get lost when you remove the covers. The really interesting part is the new spindles. The mounting bases must be like 9 or 10 inches in diameter with 6 mounting bolts each. The pulleys have a huge amount of belt wrap around contact. And man are hey built tough! I won't comment any more on that other than to say you "have" to see the promo video and watch what they put them through. Otherwise, they have added an adjustment bolt to the botom of the deck adjustment that makes it easier to make fine adjustment to the chains for pitch and leveling. Also the footplate has protruding holes for grip and it just simply flips right up for access underneath. Also the heigh adjustment pin is a "pop in" pin that is just like your pin and key setup, less the need for a key, which makes seting the height pin a lot simplier and again there is nothing to loose. It also comes w/ the Z Stand, ROPS and a seatbelt. The ROPS are also nice. They're there in he even of an accident like rolling over and being trpped under the controls. Plus they puppy folds down quick and easy for low clearance. The adjustable baffle is also trick. It's quick and easy to adjust. Otherwise it's nothing super special. It would be easy to replicate to an extent for use on some open decks. But the quick change on the baffle system is really nice. Also the faty drive sticks are nice and comfortable. Now here comes the kicker!!!! Shoot me but I think they cost too much. They were able to give me a price on the Z57 27 kohler 60" deck. Now take a guess how much? Try $10,000 Anyways, can anyone get me a balkpark figure on the Z555 (25 Kawi 60")? They didn't even have a price on that one yet. All in all, huge improvent overall and I might be persuaded to buy one if the price is right on the Z555. So there, I ate crow.