If all goes well, I am hoping to be in Va for the UVa and V.Tech game. We started off bad with that horrible loss to USC, but we have found our mojo and turned things around. Maybe we can tailgate or something if you are going to the game....I know you will be glad to get your truck back....what have you done in the mean time???? If work is slowing down for you then I might need to send you a plane ticket to come down my way because we have more then we can get done this year, especially since mother nature decided to put us on ice. I finally took the time out to resize some photos and post them in the same thread (Playing in the dirt) in the commercial landscape section I posted the before pics in. So far, my best work. But not the hi-jack Jarods thread, Jarod really has given many of us a model to follow. I do think there are times where you cant pull out the check book and scratch off a check and call it a day. But debt management and planning is key if you cant pay cash. Before I finance anything, I make sure I can pay it off if needed before we buy, but its just more cost effective to make payments for a few months then to payout on lump sum. Now that doesnt apply to small handheld equipment....Cash flow management has been key to my success this year....BTW Jarod, hope the snow didnt slow down productions.....I am hoping to make it through the end of Nov before we shut down all landscaping for the season.