Man things have changed in 6 years! I just spent a good 2 hours reading the last 1/2 of this thread. We both joined this site about the same time, and I remember taking alot of your advice into consideration when I was starting to grow my business. We've gone two completely different directions, you going into major landscape/hardscape and my company going 70% mowing with a client base of well over 1400 weekly accounts. Congratulations on your continued success, you're top class in my book.