First off thanks for the informative site, I've been wearing out the search button and learning alot. So my situation, homeowner with an increasing property size (now almost 3 acres) and decreasing amount of time to mow, time to get rid of the painfully slow lawn tractor. Yard is pretty bumpy and can be fairly wet, flat no hills at all, not much to mow around though (got it all landscaped with nice big smooth radius). Looking at a 50" range ztr...was hoping to stay under 5k until I started to really understand the differences between transaxles and seperate pumps and motors...I could probably live with some xt2800's and would last a long time for me but the engineer in me really likes seperate pumps and motors After a lot of research on here I was about ready to buy a badboy zt with vangaurd for $4500....but my crazy bumpy yard has me worried (a friend who mows commercially warned me I'll take a beating on this yard on a ztr). This weekend I got to the local Ferris/scag/exmark/grasshopper dealer....Ferris has my attention with the suspension (badboy suspension unit is more than I want to spend) dealer has new ferris 1500 with 48" cut kawi engine I can get down to $6100 plus tax...more than I wanted to spend but ohhhh the suspension So I notice simplicity and ferris are related....but I'm confused which models line up with which models and which simplicity to look at? Citation is the 1500 cousin, just with a different motor? Anything else different? Which other simplicities should I look at and other than engines what else is different between the ferris and simplicity? The Ferris seems to be a good deal more expensive...just judging by online msrp of the simplicity.... I can get my seperate pumps and motors and suspension for 5K range....I know the badboy guys will say the deck isn't as thick and no hydraulic lift etc but I"m not mowing commercially, think any of these decks will work for me. Thanks for any info!