Fert Dust & Vanguard 16 hp motor

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by ted putnam, Mar 29, 2013.

  1. Cadzilla

    Cadzilla LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 903

    I just used a new max today and am installing a new vangaurd on a 2007 Max this week so I will have two fresh motors.

    also I dont like the foot switch on the new machine. I cant feel it under my foot.
  2. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,748

    I didn't really want to get into that. I was trying to save a little money...which I did and thought I was getting a superior product because it was a nationally advertised product. It seemed like the product varied greatly in dust content from ton to ton.
    I don't want to upset anyone by outright giving the name of the product but the name contains the letters XCU.:)

    I'm done with it. Almost ag grade in my opinion

    Fine for a push spreader I suppose but it wreaked havoc on my ride-ons...
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2013
  3. JLC

    JLC LawnSite Senior Member
    from IA
    Messages: 467

    This issue is one of the reasons I'm trying to switch mine over to liquids. I know the liquid it still corrosive, but I feel like it doesn't dust the whole machine the way the granular does. I also feel like washing the machine off is better on the machine this way cause I'm diluting and rinsing off overspray as opposed to washing the powder into areas. Maybe that doesn't completely make sense but I hate having to do complete tear downs on the machine over the winter to fix what the powder/dust has gotten into. Time will tell if it helps.
  4. JLC

    JLC LawnSite Senior Member
    from IA
    Messages: 467

    Oh and I too am plenty familiar with XCU lol
  5. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,508

    Something like Sprayon EL 601 should work for this application.
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  6. Cadzilla

    Cadzilla LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 903

    I think this is all just the nature of these machines and we all need to get used to it....or we are used to it.

    Theres only so many things you can do.

    The thing about air cooled engines is it is designed to suck air...and dust into the area you don't want it. It wants clean air but it's not available.

    The carb is also an issue.

    Water cooled engine with no engine fan?

    Some sort of exterior generator and not an interior generator/stator coil?

    I know for a fact the units want an elevated airbox like swamp buggys use or a lot of commercial lawn mowers use....but higher....above the hopper.

    I wonder if LT Rich has ever thought of a lithium Ion rechargeable unit with no gas engine.

    Just thinkin outloud here...
  7. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,748

    Good call. It's alkali and acid resistant. I researched it and was going to suggest this product to my mechanics but this is what they had decided on before I was able to speak with them. 3 coats were applied and the new "treated" stator was installed. It left a thick, almost "rubberized" looking coating on the critical bare copper wires. He said it immediately jumped up to 14.3V. It's running like a champ and seems to be well protected from fert dust now...I'll try to let y'all know how things go. I've got a feeling this is the last stator I'll need on that machine for a long while now.

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