Now do I really deserve the hammerhead? I agree...there is much more to landscapes then turf! This year I just started to treat trees and shrubs and it is a lot more difficult (since I have absolutly NO background in this area at all). I am not sure I follow your comment above though! Did I not make myself clear above? I said I adjust my N rates accordingly as needed (weather, shade, irrigated, turf etc). I was just talking about the guys that say they have a different analysis for every lawn and think it is necessary to treat every lawn differently.