fertilizing shady lawns depress me ,and make cme wonting to go back to cutting grass.

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by ant, Sep 14, 2000.

  1. ant

    ant LawnSite Silver Member
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    some lawns that i fertilize have shady back lawns.
    when i first picked them up as a cust.there shady area was green and somewhat full, but over the years and some time months the turf declines big time. in the shady areas i cut the rate of n almost in half. could i be still over doind it. i been useing lesco fert.
  2. KirbysLawn

    KirbysLawn Millenium Member
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    As much as I really hate to ask this question, have you taken a lab soil test?
  3. Lazer

    Lazer LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,446

    Grass is a sun-loving plant.

    Trees get bigger year after year. Soil gets more compacted. Shady lawns do not have the energy to process the salts contained in your (our) Lesco fertilizers.

    Take Kirby's advise, pull a plug, get it tested and then sell an aeration and lime application.
  4. excel25

    excel25 LawnSite Senior Member
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    What kind of grass is it? and like Kirby said GET A SOIL TEST! Good shot at selling an overseeding.
  5. BRL

    BRL LawnSite Bronze Member
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    And don't forget to sell the overseeding (with good shade tolerant seed) to fill in those sections. Also, if you know any good tree companies in your area, hook up with them to prune the trees to allow more sunlight to filter through. Tell your customers that's what's needed, help them find a contractor to do it, then get a cut from the tree company or a promise for future referals from them. A little more sunlight coming through the canopy can make a big difference.
  6. MJB

    MJB LawnSite Silver Member
    from Wa
    Messages: 2,870

    I aggree with everyone's solution to your problem,. But 1 more thing to add, those trees will suck the water bigtime. We have sections near trees where we water more often because it dries up in just a few hrs and your grass get's stressed from lack of h2o. Grass is much thicker this year, just from watering more often. We tried deep watering and it doesn't work in this case, except the trees love it.
  7. ant

    ant LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,480

    thanks for all the replys, most of the lawns got soil test (composit of whole lawn shady and sunny) and the results are normal. but what is depressing is when i go on lawns that chem lawn ,lawn dr. take care of ,they are some what better shape. and i get to the point to were i feel i am the problem.
  8. Charles

    Charles Moderator Staff Member
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    Anthony, i was feeling good this morning until I read your post. Now i am feeling depressed. Thanks alot
  9. jaclawn

    jaclawn LawnSite Senior Member
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    One of the premier builders in out area(builds a very nice house for $500K+) goes the whole 9 yards and installs sod on all new homes. The problem is that he uses a straight bluegrass sod, and there are often shady areas. Over the years the bluegrass will deteriorate. The trees get bigger, and the grass gets thinner. The average homeowner has no clue about different types of grass, and puts the blame on the maintenance contractors. Their position is that it looked good for a while, and then under your care it is now thin. They don't realize that the premium lawn they paid for was not the correct one.

    WHat I have done on some of these full service accounts is to overseed after their annual aeration. I simly will broadcast some seed in the shady areas. I will usually use a perreinal rye mix, or some of the fine fescues if it is really shady. I know that this is not the most effiecent method of introducing new types of grass in an area, but it is better than nothing.
  10. Lazer

    Lazer LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,446

    2 minutes of customer education eliminates 85% of your problems.

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