FIRST Hardscape Project

Discussion in 'Original Pictures Forum' started by slamjamrockinman, Oct 25, 2010.

  1. FinerCutslawnCare

    FinerCutslawnCare LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,386

    Not to be nosy or anything but where and when did you learn to hardscape? Don't get me wrong it looks pretty good but I am just curious?
  2. slamjamrockinman

    slamjamrockinman LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 715

    No I hear ya, lots of people have asked me that. Basically I have wanted to do one for a while but never had the chance until now and I was really nervous about taking it on because I had never done one. I basically read alot of things from suppliers, manufacturers, and online resources(bad idea because many are geared towards homeowners). I know many other landscapers in my area so I talked it over with them before starting the project.

    I really had no hands on experience, but I just figured I would give it a try. I learned so much and don't regret it at all. I know many guys stray away from hardscapes if they don't have the knowledge.

    Have you done any hardscaping? Are you looking at getting into it?
  3. LandContract

    LandContract LawnSite Member
    from MN
    Messages: 48

    With no experience/references in hardscape how were you able to sell your customer into doing the job?
  4. slamjamrockinman

    slamjamrockinman LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 715

    Well first off it was for my cousin, however he is 42 so he is more like my uncle, but I treated him just as I would any customer. I have done general landscape work for many people that he knew and they referred my name to him.

    I landed the job the same way I would go about any job. Present an itemized estimate that looks professional, explain the process step by step, and present yourself in a knowlegable and professional manner. I was very specific in how I was going to do the job which I think helped sell it. When guys come in and say "well we'llstart by digin er out real good with the skidder, get the class 5 compacted real good, and lay a nice level sand bed, blah,blah,blah." Unless you have a book of references to show, that doesn't sell a job.

    I'm not trying to tell you I'm some super salesman or anything, I just used the same principles I have learned right here on lawnsite. Its all how you present yourself.
  5. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,381

    Nice job man! It looks really good, get some more pictures once you finish the plantings and stuff. Keep up the good work!
  6. W.L.M.

    W.L.M. LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 525

    We also run the plate tamper to set the sand in. In the last 10 years I can say we damaged maybe a dozen pavers doing it that way. If you get careless you could chip the corners of the perimeter but other than that I have never seen any other problem.
  7. Cloud9Landscapes

    Cloud9Landscapes LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ca
    Messages: 558

    Good job man, running the tamp is prolly not a problem, I would probably lay down cardboard. Taking ROP classes in masonry is a good way to pick up a good amount of knowledge. Hands on experience is mandatory as well however. Your smart for attempting this on a family members house before going out to a customers house. That's what I do, I use my house for experimenting.
  8. georgiagrass

    georgiagrass LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 970

    Looks good. Bravo for having the guts to try something new and the integrity to do it correctly and well.
  9. Tony Clifton

    Tony Clifton LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 865

    If they are concrete pavers it's fine to run the tamper on them....if they are clay pavers they will pop. Rubber on the compactor is the way to go (which we dont do or have...$$$). I really like the idea of carpet, gonna make something up that can easily be taken off and put on...don't want carpet when you're compacting base.
  10. slamjamrockinman

    slamjamrockinman LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 715

    Thanks everyone, just finished up the last bit of sod this weekend so we are done until the spring, it was a massive relief loading all my tools into the truck and pulling away!! Thanks again.

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