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first round all pre no fert??

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by mole cricket, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. mole cricket

    mole cricket LawnSite Member
    Messages: 11

    thinking of going with all pre M first round and no fert but will there be problems down the road??
  2. wiseguyslawn

    wiseguyslawn LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 464

    i would say it depends what your last app was and the timing
  3. mole cricket

    mole cricket LawnSite Member
    Messages: 11

    I used 26-5-9 with 40% poly. I think with the price of fert is it realy worth it to pound the N first round as long as your winter app was good
  4. FdLLawnMan

    FdLLawnMan LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,244

    I am north of you so I am unsure when you apply your pre-m but for me I make sure I apply my winterizer late enough. Out university also recommends no nitrogen before May 15 which I have followed the past 4 years with excellent results. So to answer your question I apply only either a granular or liquid pre-m. That way on many of my lawns where crabgrass is only a problem along edges I can apply the liquid.
  5. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,795

    i have considered this too, but not done it. i always use a low N in spring anyway to not promote fungus. never use high N in wet periods. bad practice there.

    the problem is that the pre em only in granular is more $. not cool and we like granular better especially converting to all zsprays for apps.
  6. mnturfmaster

    mnturfmaster LawnSite Member
    Messages: 65

    I agree. We have always done only Pre-M in the spring with no fert. We never fertilize before may 15th. Last year with the late spring, i don't think we applied first round of fert. until about june 1st.
  7. ant

    ant LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,466

    something like a 0-0-7 with pre m like dimension will work for the first round if done early enough.

    DUSTYCEDAR LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Messages: 5,134

    Ant i know you want to be like james bond but 007
    what you have a license to kill
  9. sclawndr

    sclawndr LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 326

    We're all for low N to avoid disease problems but at the same time, it helps to have a little N in the mix to give the yard a little pop. At the end of the day I think most customers want to see a quick green-up. We start in March and it would be hard to justify waiting until mid to late May before applying any N.
  10. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
    Messages: 6,153

    I would have to say I am with you on this one!

    It doens't take much...but I would hate the thought of putting NONE down early!

    Probably works both ways...but I don't think I will ever try it!

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