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Fist Fight with Employee

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Eddie B, May 19, 2005.

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  1. Eddie B

    Eddie B LawnSite Senior Member
    from gone
    Messages: 859

    I caught an employee stealing a trimmer at the end of the day and confronted him about it, and he decides to push me hard. I followed with a fist to his face, broke his glasses and blood was everywhere from smashing his face. He then proceeded to knock me to the ground, and I managed to push him away from me. The guy was obviously coming at me, and I had the natural reaction of punching him in the face. I guess it's self defense, he came at me first when I confronted him about the trimmer. He gave the trimmer back and left, and I didn't call the police. I probably didn't handle the situation the best way, but I don't know what else I would have done. He messed up, but he's been a good friend for about a year as well, so I didn't want to get him in too much trouble. He was my only employee at this time also. Last year I had a guy working for me and I fired him for smoking weed on the job and a week later he beat me down and got me pretty good. He also got a year in jail for assault and isn't out YET. I think I need to stay solo... I'm at the point now where I can work 6 days solo and get things done the way I need to and work my other job at the same time. Its now 3am and I just got off my other job, and my fist is still swollen pretty bad. I hope I can operate the walk-behinds later with my busted hand. This is one of many things, and with all this drama in my life I could probably make it on Jerry Springer. geez.
  2. joeg2246

    joeg2246 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 169

    I think solo might be the best way for you. Hard to tell exactly whats happening, but, you are 2 for 2 fighting with employees so the odds are it would happen again. Good luck!
    PS: I would have been pissed too if the guy was stealing from me. The weed is definatly wrong if the guy was running your equipment.

    ADLAWNCUTTERS LawnSite Member
    Messages: 191

    it's sounds like you need to find better friends / employees.keep trying to find a good one . i hope you feel better
  4. Tharrell

    Tharrell LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,967

    That could have been me. I tend to confront people in a way that puts them in a corner, I'm aware of it and trying to be more rational. I think part of my problem is my type A personality. I don't know all of the facts in your situation but, from what you said I think you put them in a corner.
    When I was an exterminator, I learned not to corner a rat. They will come at you and they can jump 3 feet high and 3 feet forward. That puts them right at the crotch. Hope all works out for you.
  5. BRIMOW525

    BRIMOW525 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 215

    Sorry to hear dude. I have a guy who gets "smoked up" every once and a while, ( I DON"T!) and as long as he doesn't bring it to work or is high at work, It doesn't really bother me. Actually he's not doing it as much anymore either. ( He's starting to realize how much $$ is wasted) Fist fights and drugs aren't good. Sounds like you either need to stay solo or get a high school kid for the summer. Good luck!
  6. surfisher211

    surfisher211 LawnSite Member
    from Jersey
    Messages: 141

    I think u handled it OK ! he is stealing your stuff then do what u have too thats your bread and butter and food in your kids mouth ! if i caught some one stealing my stuff i think i would lose it and break there arms! good luck
  7. pagefault

    pagefault LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 492

    I like Teddy Roosevelt's Big Stick Diplomacy. He said "Speak softly and carry a big stick, and you will go far."

    I haven't had a fight since I was 20. I've learned how to confront people in a way that let's them know that I'm not looking for trouble, but I'm not someone they want to tangle with.

    I even worked for a couple of years as a bouncer in a college town and a couple of years as a bartender at a hole in the wall redneck rancher bar, with not one fight. There were more than a few times that I had to break up fights and there were more then a few times that I had to physically move people out the door, but no fights.

    You don't want to corner people when you confront them. You want to give them a way out and let them know that the way out that you are giving them is FAR more desirable than the alternative.
  8. Eddie B

    Eddie B LawnSite Senior Member
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    Messages: 859

    He just gave me a call and left a message, he's still in the hospital with a concussion. He said I "over-stepped my boundaries" with him. He stole from me and pushed me, simple as that. I even have a witness (a customer, how great!) My fist is still swollen quite a bit. What should I do, keep pressure on it? Ice doesn't seem to be helping much. I don't like hospitals.
  9. MOW ED

    MOW ED LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,028

    I would have followed up with a police report just to cover your behind. You have a witness but you should get it documented asap. If the goof presses charges on you or trys to recover hospital costs or worse yet comes back after you at a later date, you have it documented with the people that can help you.
    From the way you put it, it sounded like self defense to me. The witness really is a plus for you. You have to protect yourself. Don't feel bad about going to the police, it wasn't a thought until he stole from you then assaulted you. He made the choice, protect yourself.
  10. 6'7 330

    6'7 330 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    In all the years i was in business,never had an employee attack me .Had a few steal things and get caught but they didnt try anything physical.
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