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Flagstone Patio we just finished

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by JimLewis, Oct 18, 2006.

  1. JimLewis

    JimLewis LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,872

    Here are some pics I took today of a flagstone patio we just completed this week. Comments?

    And what do you all think of the picture with Fernando in the picture. Good idea or not? I've never done that before. But he was there so I said, "Hey, why don't you hop in the picture. You freakin' built this. Might as well take some of the credit." Do you think having him in that one picture is unprofessional or a bad idea for any reason?

    Here's the link;


  2. kris

    kris LawnSite Bronze Member
    from nowhere
    Messages: 1,578

    I think it is a good Idea ... perhaps have had him working instead of sitting though.
  3. TPnTX

    TPnTX LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,775

    Hey jim is that using the fill material you spoke of?

    I don't think having fernado there does any harm. If it made him feel good, even better.
  4. JimLewis

    JimLewis LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,872

    Yah, that's EnviroStone (by Envirobond). Great stuff! I friggin' love it. Been using that stuff for about a year and a half now and it's been great.
  5. Surf'n'Turf

    Surf'n'Turf LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 326

    What is that, Jim? Hard to tell by the pics, but looks similar to stone dust, common here in NJ. BTW, Fernando did good...looks nice.
  6. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,260

    Personally i don't think it looks all that good. Mainly i feel the joints look to big. I would of chiseled the peices more to make them fit together tighter. Thats how i like it.

    All that matters is what your customer thinks, not some landscaper from nj!

  7. kootoomootoo

    kootoomootoo LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,369

  8. tthomass

    tthomass LawnSite Gold Member
    from N. VA
    Messages: 3,498

    my customers have always liked it very tight and i usually end up cutting a lot............just as example, say 3 of 4 sides i would end up cutting

    it depends on the customer though, some like it bigger (moss) and some don't, just depends

    other than spacing preference it looks to have been laid well
  9. Redbear

    Redbear LawnSite Member
    Messages: 28

    Jim, are you using the envirobond product to set the stone in as well as for the joints or just using it for jointing in the end?
  10. JimLewis

    JimLewis LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,872

    Yah, well, I'm not a freakin' stone mason. And my guys aren't either. We don't do masonry work. And we don't chisel or cut flagstones. This type of flagstone patio is the very common these parts.

    Regardless, I make it very clear to our clients how their flagstone patio is going to look when we are finished. I show them pictures. I explain that if they want the nice cut and chisled look, they can call a stone mason. I even offer them some business cards from some local stone masons if they seem interested in going that route. I explain the differences between the different kinds of flagstone patios to them. I explain the benefits of having one precision cut and mortared in by a stone mason. But I also explain that that kind of flagstone patio will cost them 2-3x as much as the kind we install. And I explain that ours are going to have larger joints and I go into detail explaining how our joint compound works as well (Envirobond). Throughout the entire process, the customer has full choice and disclosure. Sometimes they chose to go the stone mason route and have it done that way. But often times this kind of flagstone patio is exactly what they are looking for AND it's the only option because the stone mason patio isn't within their budget.

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