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Hi there,
I flipped my ride on on the side to swap belts and didnt really concider were i was flipping it, i ended up having it airfliter side down and exhaust is on the front so it was rotated 90% to the left, im assuming the oil has run over something, i took the hoses off the cylinder under the air filter, and drained all the excess oil and replaced it and a clean filter, tryed to start it but nothing, its frozen like it has to much compression for the starter motor, witch makes me think it dont matter if the plugs fouled at the moment theres something preventing it "oil?" from moving at all, ill clean the plug, the exhaust doesnt seem to have any oil in it to get rid of, other than that could it be the carby flooded with oil and the cylinder and just needs a few manual turns with the plug off to push it out? Any help would be great, im considering pulling the lot apart and cleaning it out, thanks in advance

 

[dieselss]

Pull the plugs and crank it over.

Why would you put a tractor on its side anyway?

 

[Langford2000]

More than likely there's oil in the cylinder from it running into the carb. Remove the spark plug and spin the engine by hand with a rag over the hole. Clean the plug and try to start it. You may have to do this a couple times as the oil may foul the plug. There's no way to get 100% of it out without major disassembly.

 

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Thanks very much, perfect, ill give it a shot sounds good, just wondering after i do that and it starts, the excess oil thats left will just burn off will it? Or can it cause additional problems down the line, is there anything else i should clean, Carby, air lines etc, or will it just be good to go if its starts? Thanks in adavnce

 

[Langford2000]

Make sure you spin the engine enough to get most of the oil out of the cylinder. I might even hit the electric starter with the plug out to give it a little extra speed. When it starts it'll smoke like a freight train but should clear up after a couple minutes. Also, check the oil before you try to start it and make sure there's plenty in the engine.

 

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Cheers got it, will do, perfect chance to get my mate to have a look in the plug hole i guess thanks mate ill let you's know how it goes, thanks again!

 

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Pull the plugs and crank it over.

Why would you put a tractor on its side anyway?

Pull the plugs and crank it over.

Why would you put a tractor on its side anyway?

Thanks for your reply, how should you position a Sabre ride on lawn mower to change the belts just out of interest for next time? I assmued from several videos on youtube it was ok to tip it on its side, it was never said in them but i gathered they had to flip it a certain way to avoid what happened to me,(or they all took their engines off first) i just didnt concider it at all when i did it,.. i have no idea why someone would put a tractor on its side the mower hit the ground hard enough flipping it back!

 

[PicturePerfectLawns]

I've done the same thing just not with a tractor, but with a push mower. Accidentally turned it the wrong way when changing blades not paying attention and got oil all in the air filter. You've been given some solid answers. First change the air filter, clean all the oil out of the intake / filter set-up. Pull that spark plug with a towel at the hole and start cranking it over to try and get that oil out. Also, change your plug, althoug it will probably foul it again. Once it eventually does start, make sure you have it outside, because it will smoke like a freight train burning the oil out.

 

[PicturePerfectLawns]

Also when tipping anything, always make sure you turn the fuel valve (OFF) if you don't have one, one can be easily installed.

 

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Thanks again, i have had it happen to a push mower aswell i stored for a week, was tilted on a big angle, i just flipped it upside down with every cap and the plug off for a few hrs, flipped it back filled it up, took the exhaust off cleaned it so it didnt smoke like a freight train, let it sit right way up for a few more hours, cleaned the plug and she blew smoke for a second or 2 and was fine, kinda gathered its similar for this ride on

 

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Also when tipping anything, always make sure you turn the fuel valve (OFF) if you don't have one, one can be easily installed.

Thanks again, That never crossed my mind, it would flow back threw the carb and put oil in the fuel tank would it?

 

[hort101]

Other way allow fuel into the oilThumbs Up

 

[PicturePerfectLawns]

Thanks again, That never crossed my mind, it would flow back threw the carb and put oil in the fuel tank would it?

It all depends on the machine and how it was designed. Some machines, tipping them over can get oil into the filtration system. Other machines, often seen in trimmers, tipping them wrong, will get fuel into the filtration system. I've often seen air filters soaked in fuel from being turned wrong, just as described above. I always try and remind myself to shut the fuel off before tipping anything if at all possible.

 

[Breezmeister]

I assmued from several videos on youtube it was ok to tip it on its side,

Why would you put a tractor on its side anyway?

Taryl Dactal

Thanks for your reply, how should you position a Sabre ride on lawn mower to change the belts just out of interest for next time?

I guess some of use have made that mistake :hammerhead:
Carb on the high side all the time, fuel line pinched off/shut off.

 

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Taryl Dactal

I guess some of use have made that mistake :hammerhead:
Carb on the high side all the time, fuel line pinched off/shut off.

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Taryl Dactal

I guess some of use have made that mistake :hammerhead:
Carb on the high side all the time, fuel line pinched off/shut

Taryl Dactal

I guess some of use have made that mistake :hammerhead:
Carb on the high side all the time, fuel line pinched off/shut off.

Na they werent Taryl videos, nearly clicked him, looks like a funny fella, ill remember Carb up fuel off! cheers

 

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Its up and running now, cut a heap today, to beggin with allot of oil flowed from the plug hole as i removed it, and more when i cranked it by hand, "so yeah that was the problem, oil in the cylinder" then i hit the starter and blasted a fair bit more out, after trying for a few minutes and not getting it to fire repeating that and cleaning the plug, i decided to tip a tiny bit of petrol down the air filter, took the plug out, hit the starter and it blew all the oil filled petrol out, repeated that then blew some air down it with the compressor waited a bit for it to dry, hit the starter once more, put the plug back in and she fired up perfect, barely any smoke aswell, only smoked off the outside were it got on the exhaust for a few minutes, my mechanical knowledge is experimenting on cheap motorbikes as a kid 20 years ago so its not the best, really dunno if i should have tipped petrol in the airfilter hole to help speed it up, seemed logical tho, air filter was full of oil that flowed to the cylinder and that is pumping my problem out, petrol dilutes oil..... bingo, either way worked out A1

Thanks Everyone for your advice and promt replys, i hope to never have to ask a similar question again, shall apply the brain :hammerhead:cheers:drinkup: