? for the guys with trailers larger than 16 to 18' that haul multiple mowers

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by Jason Rose, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. Diamond Dave

    Diamond Dave LawnSite Member
    Messages: 62

    I would read that to mean only if that 10,000 or more trailer puts you over that 26,000 mark. So for example you should be able to tow a 14K dump trailer with a 10,400GVW F350 pickup and be fine. But hook it to a 13K dually and you would need a CDL A.
  2. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,795

    what about what i mentioned as one of you asked, who does mine fair in your opinions to the cdl debate??
  3. Landscraper1

    Landscraper1 LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Southeastern Ma.
    Messages: 753

    Correct. If you pull any trailer with a GVW over 10,000LB, you need a CDL
  4. FryDaddy

    FryDaddy LawnSite Member
    Messages: 145

    This may be a stupid/dumb reply, but just use one 3.5k axle & one 5.2k axle. Don't know if its even possible or what would happen, but problem solved. Well, going back to lala land.
  5. Landscraper1

    Landscraper1 LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Southeastern Ma.
    Messages: 753

    Trailer cannot be made that way
  6. Landscraper1

    Landscraper1 LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Southeastern Ma.
    Messages: 753

    Wrong, No matter the situation, if your trailer is over 10,000 gvw, you need a CDL. Not even a class B would cut it. You would need a Class A CDL license.
  7. Jason Rose

    Jason Rose LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,858

    Well I guess after 56 posts on this thread we have all seen the same thing, piss poor wording on behalf of the DOT website, haha. I guess when I order my new one I'll do as advised by others, and by the trailer dealer and have it registered for 9900 lbs.

    Now, a side question, is the 10,000 lb rule for ANYONE pulling the trailer or is it only for those using them for a business? If it's for anyone I could name a dozen people right off the top of my head that are "illegal" and should have a class A CDL. Those are just friends and family, lol. My parents have a car hauler, horse trailer, and a dump trailer. All rated over 10K.
  8. dwc

    dwc LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 643

    If this is like Oklahoma, that is saying you have to have a CDL IF you pull your trailer with a truck with a gcwr of 26,001 or more, which would mean pulling that trailer with a Class 6 medium duty or larger.
    The gcwr of my rig with a 12K gvw trailer and 1 ton is limited to my one ton's gcwr. (i think its like 17,500) Even if I were to hook onto a gooseneck trailer with a gvw of 24K I am still limited to my pickups GCVW of 17,500.
    Now when you get into tractor trailers, this is not the case because they do NOT have GCWR's. This is something most DOT boys don't seem to grasp very well in DOT boy school. We have been round and round with these jerks and know of other large corporations in OK that have been also and this is the conclusion that has been made by the higher ups at DOT.
  9. dwc

    dwc LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 643

    also I should mention if I were to cross state lines then all this changes. I think the limit there is 10K and above. Each state sets their own rules based from the federal mandates.
  10. IN2MOWN

    IN2MOWN LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,993

    The part you bolded is only 1/2 the sentence though...

    On the next line it clearly states about the COMBINATION weight.

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