Frosted Lens for mr-16 bulbs

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Marcos, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. Marcos

    Marcos LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,720


    I consider myself pretty darn good in turf care, nursery and ornamentals. I've been in that area almost 30 years. But I'm pretty ignorant with lighting. (Maybe we can trade ideas on those topics here?)......... I'm doing a job with some 35 watt mr - 16 halogen flood bulbs that are in well fixtures shining up onto four 6' alberta spruces and the sides of a large ranch house. It looks pretty good, except it appears 'concentrated' above the plants even though they are flood lights. One fellow at Ace Hardware recommended to me an 1 7/8 inch frosted lens to put over the bulb to blur that effect and spread that light over the wall better. (He said he's seen colored lenses too, but he didn't know where to buy them at all.) Do you agree that this will work? If so, where are the best kind of places to buy these lenses? I can't find anything on the internet.
  2. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
    Male, from Kingsland, Texas
    Messages: 2,214

    A frosted lens will soften the beam and give it a less pronounced "beam". You can get these lenses from any professional lighting distributor. I assume that since you were talking to your "Ace Hardware Man" about lighting, that you purchased Malibu products from there and they won't know where to pick up these lenses. If you have a John Deer Landscape or Ewing irrigation in the area, you could try them. If you need an internet source, try Terradek, Florida Outdoor Lighting, or California Landscape Lighting.

    Good luck, and don't forget the lens clips.
  3. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,180

    first I am REALLY surprised the guy at ACE knew what a frosted lens is.

    I wasnt aware they sold well lights either. Pauls listings for suppliers is spot on. We use the CAST brand of lenses for the most part for frosted mr lenses.

    What kind of voltage do you have at the fixture? did you consider trying a 20w bulb in place of the 35's to see if that helped.. also perhaps a wider spread bulb... x-wide 60 degree? It really depends on placement and the size of the plants

    If your "ignorant" with lighting you should seek a local lighting guru out and ask him about his refferal program. Could be more lucrative for you than messing with these yourself and alot less headaches.

    I think you also have a wolf creek near you. They just combines with Night tyme and should have what you need in stock locally.
  4. klkanders

    klkanders LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 849

    Good info Paul and Billy. I also thought I saw a reply by Night tyme but It was gone by the time i got a chance to look at this thread? Anyone know what Doug said or why it was deleted? I feel cheated somehow.
  5. ar-t

    ar-t LawnSite Member
    Messages: 49

    Using diffusers is one of those little tricks that separate the real pro from the wanna-be. I always use a diffuser when shining against a wall. Not only will it spread things out a bit, but you can get some really nasty looking rings and hot spots (depending on the fixture) without one.

    35W is too much for a 6' tree. 20W, and try the wide angle one (BAB-60). You may also want to try using more than one fixture on each. I am from the camp that believes more fixtures, each putting out less light, than one big fixture, putting out tons of light and washing out the foliage, is the way to go.
  6. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,933

    If you go to John Deere you can access lens packs from Unique that have Linear, Frosted, and Dimpled Spread lenses for MR-16's and Par 36's. The frosted will soften and eliminate the harsh beam lines, a dimpled however will soften a little, not as much as a frosted but will spread the light out even more. Then a linear depending if you place the lines horizontally or verticlly will narrow the beam in and spread it up or down or left to right. Colored lenses are not all that great in my opinion, maybe for holidays, and a blue lens works great for moonlighting and some underwater/waterfall applications.

    Joey D.
  7. NiteTymeIlluminations

    NiteTymeIlluminations LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 367

    Or visit your locally owned Unique distributor which was already mentioned!!!!
  8. NiteTymeIlluminations

    NiteTymeIlluminations LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 367

    Joey D...if you work for Unique and want to stress that so much, please do some research and fully read the thread before telling a client to go to Deere for Unique...
  9. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,933

    Thanks Nite Tyme, will do! I was trying to stress the different lenses not the Unique name. I did read and missed the part where you have joined with Wolf Creek, I just saw someone mention Deere so I was trying emphasize IF they did go there....I will try and leave the company name out of my posts. I am learning how this forum works and it's rules. Honestly I am not trying to just push my company on you, I have been in this industry for 12 years so I think I have more to bring to the table then just things that Unique makes. Sorry if I have annoyed you or anyone else with the few posts I have made.

    Joey D.
  10. NiteTymeIlluminations

    NiteTymeIlluminations LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 367

    I understand...but little do you know that you are talking to the unique distributor that someone already mentioned...then you come in and mention going to a different unique distributor!?!?

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