as much as i totally understand being discouraged in this business, or any business, or in life in general when things are tough, i also feel that there are some on here that tend to have the attitude that they have some rights to do this business, and others dont, and that they are struggling because of the newbies and illegals in the business...to those poor souls that have been the victim of the effects of capitalism, losing work to other hard-working-for-less-pay-individuals, i say, im really sorry. youre right, you should get out of the business and go work for someone else, or try another business that no one else is doing, because you are right, you have the right to succeed. so good luck. to those individuals that are planning on undercutting me or competing with me, i say, bring it on...but be prepared to live below the poverty level, because i am. ive lived a good life, and i have been without, and i have chosen to do this work because i actually enjoy it, and i dont mind working for less, as long as i have work. to all the immigrants, i say welcome. i love that finally the american worker has and is being challenged to get off their union organized fat a$$ and actually do an honest days work. im glad to see this country getting back to its roots when everything is being challenged, immigrants have a chance, nature is our foe, and nothing is set in stone. we as americans have had it too good for too long. we are FAT and we need to be shook up and kicked in the rear. so, i say, at the risk of this coming back and biting me in the butt, bring it on...if you cant handle the heat, get out of the kitchen! :usflag: