Getting Grass To Grow In Shady Area!

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by amvega, Feb 22, 2006.

  1. amvega

    amvega LawnSite Member
    Messages: 61

    I was wondering if anybody could give me some good input on how to get a good shady lawn. Customer has alot of oak trees. Also there is alot of moss present. Was blowing leaves today and moss and grass was coming up like carpet. I going to get a soil sample done, but was just wondering if any of you guys may have some in put. This customer spends alot of money on his lawn and I want to give him what he deserves. Thanks
  2. muddstopper

    muddstopper LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,341

    Increase the available sunlite, reduce the moisture, and improve the soil fertility
  3. baddboygeorge

    baddboygeorge LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,249

    ditto!! he hit the nail on the head!!
  4. sheshovel

    sheshovel LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,112

    I'd say there is a drainage/compaction problem where the moss is growing.It's difficult to grow grass under Oak tree's.But there are shade cultivars out there.I suggest you do a search on lawn grasses that are shade tolerant.
  5. JB1

    JB1 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,904

    maybe a little

  6. amvega

    amvega LawnSite Member
    Messages: 61

    A couple of years ago we mulched up alot of the leaves I thought that maybe it just made the soul so acidic. Customers lawn use to look alot better before that. There has been some trees removed so is getting more light then before. We usuall slice and seed every year putting 100 to 150 lbs of shaddy mix grass seed with alot of creeping fesue. Don't know if that changes any input.
  7. baddboygeorge

    baddboygeorge LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,249

    mulching leaves year after year an especially lots of leaves causes a lawn to break down an become very bare. that is why removing the leaves is a much better solution in the long haul.if you have anymore questions let me know thanks george
  8. get rich

    get rich LawnSite Member
    Messages: 195

    Soil testing will tell for sure,but i'd say low in all three n p k if moss is growing. What kinda fert program is applied to the turf if any? A good fert program and over seeding with the shade mix your using sure return great results if you've let the sun shine in. let us know how the tests come back, that will help with your question. good luck
  9. gammon landscaping

    gammon landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 553

    i think creeping red fescue is what you want. it will work well in this app. and a soil test is a good idea. just remember that what the recomend is to apply said amount of fert then till it in to the soil. so if you are not going to totally redue the yard cut the recomandations by 8 and do it over time in small applications
  10. indyturf

    indyturf LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Indy
    Messages: 1,901

    if this doesn't work you may want to consider mulch, English ivy or some type of shade loving plants or ground cover. there are some places that grass just will not grow!

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