Getting there...

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by cgaengineer, Aug 1, 2008.

  1. cgaengineer

    cgaengineer LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 15,778

    Of course its not finished but I would like to show everyone my progress and I am open to suggestions or ideas for the front porch area. I will be removing 2 path lights, as the 4 next to walkway is too much (I am removing last 2 closest to the driveway).

    What I currently have:

    Path lights: 4 Unique Illuminator 4's
    Left side rock: 2 Unique Guardians
    Either side of garage: 2 Unique Guardians
    Gable light: Unique Stellar


    I thank everyone in previous threads for ideas and suggestions and most importantly not being hard on me.
  2. TXNSLighting

    TXNSLighting LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 6,463

    You are definately getting there! A nice big cluster of path lights ya got there.. Can ya not spread em out more?
  3. Chris J

    Chris J LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,843

    Personally, I would have used two stellars for the garage gable but your set up looks just fine. I would take the path lights away like you mentioned, and up light the column at the entrance and call it a day. Looks great Mr. Jones!
  4. cgaengineer

    cgaengineer LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 15,778

    It looks clustered but they are actually about 4 feet apart...due to the turn in walkway they look really close. I am going to go to only two and I will move the other two elsewhere. I will remove the last 2 closest to the driveway.
  5. cgaengineer

    cgaengineer LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 15,778

    I tried 2 and just could not get it to look right...I was up on a ladder for about an hour trying different positions and angles and nothing looked good...but who am I to judge, this is my first install? If I add more lights to the gable they will be two mini spots in the corners.

    I think my house is a tough house to light as its really not that fancy and lacks architectural features of most houses I see.
  6. cgaengineer

    cgaengineer LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 15,778

    Whats your thoughts on an up/down light on the column? One like Coppermoon's CM.400?
  7. cgaengineer

    cgaengineer LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 15,778

    Here is an updated shot of my deck with Unique Gemini's installed

  8. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,553

    That's the point.... 4 ft. apart is awfully close. I'll usually space them anywhere from 9 to 12 ft. apart... sometimes even 15 depending on wattage and what other (if any) light sources are nearby.
  9. Tomwilllight

    Tomwilllight LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 284

    You may want to try a couple of things:

    You've got a front door that wants to be lighted. It's your BIGGEST problem because the door is dark and the house is white/cream. This makes it difficult to establish a center in the composition using luminance. You may want to think about detail and contrast.

    Try turning on the porch light. Most are junk but you may be able to work with it and draw focus to the door. If the door has any interesting features, try to call attention to them. If you are lucky and the door is lighted with a recessed fixture in the porch ceiling, you can do lots with it. Maybe a retrofit with a focusable unit could fit the budget.

    Bring down the brightness on the left and right by lamping down or screening the uplights. You are already fighting a dark center and don't want to make it more difficult than it has to be.

    As pictured, the house breaks in half compositionally. Try to add a single uplight to the garage wall by the walkway. This will help you turn the corner to pull the house together, add dimension and reduce the unlighted gap. I would try a diagional on that wall too... if you can avoid glare when standing in the front door.

    For the porch area, try to mount near the tops of both columns and graze your light toward the central windows. Again, you must take care with the glare but the columns may look better with sidelight than with down light.

    Also consider mounting a down light above the door on our right... is there a spot there that will make it possible to add some interesting grazing light to the door?

    The pathlights look OK to me. I'd leave them alone. I like what's happening on the foundation.

    Try to avoid blaming the object you are lighting for an unsatisfactory result. A better approach is to examine the object and ID the problems... then challenge yourself to solve those problems.

    There are ALWAYS problems and they are your BEST friends, they make you think hard.

    Good Luck, Tom
  10. Tomwilllight

    Tomwilllight LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 284

    "Here is an updated shot of my deck with Unique Gemini's installed"

    A big improvment to my eye.


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