Gotta laugh when you get a guy who says he has $20000 to spend and you go drive by a few weeks later and the friggin homeowner is doing it himself. Had one today. He has "installed" (code for fu.cked up) about 100ft of wall across the front of the $450000 house and the wall is crooked everywhere. Hes had 100 bales of straw sitting out in the rain with only the top covered etc etc. I might send the wife a sympathy card!.