Good price?

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by NEUSWEDE, Dec 27, 2009.


    NEUSWEDE LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 1,147

    Looking around for a used excavator. Came across this, the sales man stops by my shop once a month and had me out about a week ago to demo this machine. Bit bigger than I want would like to be around a 120, But in my quest to get a grasp on pricing and to notice deals figure I would see what you guy thought.

    2003 John Deere 160 CLC 5600 Hours, pro-link thumb 36" digging bucket, Hydraulic quick coupler 2 aux Hydraulic lines, 24" tracks, A/C, 50% UC, all pins were tight when I demoed it no slop.

    The quote on it was 62,000 before tax. Seems high for the amount of hours, but does the thumb and the good condition warrant a price that high?

  2. GeoffDiamond

    GeoffDiamond LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 1,651

    Price sounds high to me. However if your looking for an excavator around 50 to 60K thats what you will probably find for years and hours.
  3. Dirtman2007

    Dirtman2007 LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,366

    Sounds about 10-12K too much for me
  4. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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  5. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Messages: 4,280

    If a peice of equipment is within 10-15% of the average market price do not discard the notion of buying it. There will always be cheaper machines but you have to look at total cost not just selling price which includes what it will take to get it to you if the machine is out of state.
    The machine seems to be loaded and has a hyd quick coupler which has to add to the cost.
  6. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    The best thing is to go run it and see what its like it may have a easy 5600 hours on it or it may not. See if the dealer will let you take it to a job and try it out.

    My preferance would be a Hitachi Zaxis 160LC same machine but different engine far quieter and easier on fuel. Here parts are cheaper for Hitachi than Deere go figure same machine :rolleyes:
  7. ARP

    ARP LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,510

    Neuswede- That's funny, I glanced at that machine a few months ago. My thoughts were that for those many hours, the price should be lower like Chris said, another 10-12K. Never saw the machine in person but it looks clean from the pics. I do like the progressive link thumb.

    You probably noticed it, but there is no hydraulic coupler on that machine, at least from the pics shown. Check the swing bearing for evidence of greasing and if the machine stops turning without any wierd sounds/ motions when you release the joystick. If you are serious about the machine, get some fluid samples analyzed to see what shape the internal components and systems are in.

    Based on the market conditions (read: alot of used and new units available), the year of the machine, and the hours, I would consider looking elsewhere unless the dealer is really willing to deal on that machine and cut the price dramatically.

    NEUSWEDE LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 1,147

    It is at Beauragard. The machine is in great condition. It was an RTO and the guy ended up needing bigger (cat 320) so the plus is it was always serviced by the dealer at the speced intervals. The picture is from awhile back. It has a hydro coupler, I tried it out when I demoed it. They added it and all the hoses. There is a big box on either side of the boom that isnt shown in the picture that is the switch over for the coupler. It is a very tight machine. I have a small project coming up begining of the year I am going to try it out on. They are giving me a discount rental on it which I thought was fair. I am on the fence because would like a bit smaller but think having a bit bigger than what I want will give me room to grow. So instead of buying for what I need give myself some room in case I come upon a job that needs a bigger machine.

    I think the dealer is willing to deal. I haven't worked them on price but they are pretty hard up so if I feel it is a great machine I will start to work them. I am looking at a used Volvo 160, 140 and a used Cat 311 and 312 at other dealers as well. Lots out there just have to find a good machine at a good deal.
  9. stuvecorp

    stuvecorp LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,244

    It does look nice but I would say way out of line price wise IMHO. If you aren't in a rush keep checking.
  10. RockSet N' Grade

    RockSet N' Grade LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,454

    Our area is feeling the lack of work in full effect right now. Each geographic area is different.......I can just speak to what our market is right now. 200-400 sized machines in varying conditions from well kept to worn out - asking price is around $25,000 with few to no takers. 160 sized machines from newer with less hours are running the same. They are a dime a dozen and plentiful........all private parties. If you are sold on that machine, which looks unabused, will the dealer throw in some type of extended warranty or extended service contract? Wouldn't hurt to ask if you decide that Deere is for you. If you are machine hunting, this is a good time to do it. Good luck....

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