I had a guy working today and we got pretty good at it with the new equipment working as a team. He'd take the Echo 650 and go around the border and around things and then i'd follow with the Billy Goat push and make huge piles, then we'd tarp the piles to the curb and he'd start vac'ing them into the truck while i mowed and bagged cleaning everything up, and I'd do a final blowing of the drive and stuff as he put the vac hose up and cleaned up at the curb. Worked out real slick. Even though the BG is smallest model, it does a good job and saves lots of labor with a backpack on some places, and the Echo 650 saves lots of labor on the smaller Kaw b/p too. And, the Ferris and Fast-Vac is just super! It's really great. I love that thing! Really happy with this years setup, and it's far from what i want to have lol... i guess i mean things are working just fine even if they're not peak effeciency, we're making good time and things are working without troubles. thats effeciency to me! On the downside, I have been trying to quote jobs per the job instead of per hour. I THOUGHT i could get a better rate this way and avoid some hassle. Well I either forgot how much time leaves can take or I was overconfident of the new equipment, or both. But I have done a couple jobs without clearing alot of profit i guess you could say :-/ well live and learn... some people respond really bad when they hear what you'd charge for a cleanup. They don't seem to understand the extra equipment and time involved. It's like they think it should be the same price as a mow or just $5 more But everyone is happy with the finished product and thats all that counts in my book (money matters aside, just talking business practices and ethics here). I found that alot of jobs will take the same time using the blow and tarp then mow and bag method as opposed to just mow and bag (dumping very frequently), or slightly longer for the first method, but the first method has a bit lower cost as the equipment doesn't cost as much ($500 blowers or $9600 mower and bagger). I don't like dumping a bagger constantly and sometimes it's just easier to blow into piles and haul the piles. Occasionally I mulch then bag, but for the conditions i have to work in (less than ideal sometimes) thats just too messy. Either the lawns are too small and you get corn flakes all over the flower beds and stuff or too wet and they make a sticky mess that won't suck up into the mower, or whatever it is, never works out right for me but sometimes i get away with it. I do alot of one time cleanup jobs, or my regular customers go 2 weeks between cleanings, or just get alot in one week. Mulching isn't an option for me, end of subject! But, thats just my opinion.