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Grass seed washed away?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by jwscarab, Apr 5, 2010.

  1. jwscarab

    jwscarab LawnSite Member
    Messages: 53

    Ok, I am not looking for perfection but I just spent several hours yesterday tilling slightly, seeding ky 31, fertilizing and covering with straw probably about 1000 sq ft - some on slopes. Well today - an unexpected MAJOR downpour.

    So whats my best bet? I dont want perfection, just 75% satisfaction on these spots filling in. Its my own 10 acre rural lot, not a small manicured lot. I am patching large spots in that needed it years ago.

    Can I just reseed over the straw and it will fall thru the straw??

  2. ajslands

    ajslands LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,238

    You must not have tilled enough!
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  3. jwscarab

    jwscarab LawnSite Member
    Messages: 53

    Well, I am not even sure it washed away, I am just assuming it has?? Just didnt know if my best insurance is to add a quick seeding on top. It may be ok, but it was a HARD FAST rain.
  4. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    This is just one of the reasons why I highly recommend core aeration and seeding
    be done together, I also don't believe in tilling up a yard to be seeded nor do I believe
    in that straw garbage but...

    I've had a few requests for it over the years :p

    Way I do it, after the seed is down I go over the entire tilled part with a
    landscaper's rake and get all the seed raked into the soil a bit...

    It's a special rake, with one of these it doesn't take long at all,
    now I'm having difficulty trying to explain it so it looks like this:

  5. billslawn89

    billslawn89 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,365

    the seed needs to be covered with soil to germanate, like topsites said with the rake...just can't throw in on top........ pull back the straw and see if the seed is still there, but make sure the seed is COVERED up.....
  6. jwscarab

    jwscarab LawnSite Member
    Messages: 53

    OK, I realize after the fact I should have covered up for better results. I have to admit I have seeded this whole property that way - seed, fertilize, straw - w/o covering, and 90+% of the 10 acres grew just fine. I am not arguing I did it wrong - I realize this now.

    Good point - I will check the areas tomorrow for seed when I get home and its daylight!!

    But as its my own rural yard, has anybody overseeded thru the straw and had any luck - even if its just somewhat beneficial??
  7. FYS777

    FYS777 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,305

    could i ask , what did you slightly till with? was there some grass roots still left in these area's?
  8. raptor1bravo

    raptor1bravo LawnSite Member
    Messages: 19

    Same thing happened to me when I seeded my lawn. Everything was graded and the weather report said showers that night. I raked my A** off and seeded into the night. I spread straw out in the dark and then it started to rain...and rain...and rain! After that it rained harder! Then it really came down!
    Needless to say I had great grass in the ditch!
    Lesson learned!

  9. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    I hate to answer this question because I don't like throwing down hundreds of
    pounds of seed the wrong way and then try and decide whether or not I made
    a mistake... The simple of it thou has been covered, I guess?

    Now I have never used straw, hate it, if for no other reason than it has to be
    cleaned up later, it does not decompose in time thou every person who reseeds
    their yard has a different method and I'm not here to argue over this, either.

    There exists a proper way of doing things, and then there's our way LOL

    That having been said, I've seeded and aerated over top of a bunch of leaves
    and grass that I realized I had to cut the very next day!
    And it still turned out all right.

    And I've also done everything just so perfect, and nothing happened.

    To me it's a little like cooking, some is just plain dumb luck.

    You might be all right, it might be a total wash, who knows?

    Here is why, to develop a nice lawn?
    I aerate and seed EVERY fall, that's over top of some fertilizer and lime.

    Then it all depends how much seed you used, as a rule I like to say 50 pounds per 1/4 acre.
    But more than anything, put it on a maintenance program and you'll do fine.
  10. jwscarab

    jwscarab LawnSite Member
    Messages: 53

    I used a rear tine tiller, set about 2" and only ran across the spots one pass trying not to get it toooo fine.

    I appreciate all the input! I think I will just spread some more seed and cross my fingers this time. Another $20 isnt going to kill me, but if I get no grass I will wish I had done it!

    I do like doing things correctly, but I didnt know any better and I didnt do my research on this project first! I have alyways heard seed, straw, but thats from homeowners like me who dont know any better. Next time I will do it right!!! I have the home on the market and want some spots filled in to look better!

    Thanks all!!!

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