Ok, so i have heard the good and the bad. From what i understand its not impossible to come across a brand new grassHopper that is a LEMON, but also i hear alot of realy great things about the mowers ( that aren't lemons) and as long as you take care of them, they should take care of you.... I do like what GrassHopper has to offer, and it is the most confortable mower i have ever sat on. So this winter I will be looking for a Used grasshopper in my area. if anyone in my are would have one please let me know. I don't see very many older GrassHoppers for sale... where do they go?