I posted this thread yesterday but i may have put it in at the wrong place. Either way I have a dealer here in town that took a 2005 52" gravely walkbehind,17 hp pistol grip,kawasaki motor for sale for $3600. It has 20 hours on it,,someone traded it in on an exmark. I thought it might be fine for me to have as a back up mower or maybe eventually get a ztr rider and keep this walk behind as a hill machine or back up. I was wondering if anyone has owned one or knew of its basic performance. The 17 hp makes me a little hesitant ,,thought 19 or more would be best but for a beginning mower or back up thought it might do all right. Let me know if you have any experience or comments there,thanks,,,Moremow ,,Roanoke Va.