I will almost assuredly go Gravely for my next Z. I will need to demo it on my own yard first. I know if it cuts mine cleanly in one pass, it'll handle all the rest of my properties no problem. I take care of my yard as much as I can/time allows, and it is all fine fescue. Once it gets a few inches tall over HOC, it becomes a real bugger to cut clean in one pass. I really want to try the 460 out. It may even prompt me to sell mine and buy sooner than later LOL. The Gravely dealer/salesman that Gravely set me up with last year for the Pro Stance demo is an good, helpful guy. I would be happy to do business with them/him.