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Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by GMLC, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. Snapper Jack

    Snapper Jack LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 525

    Kanman........What's you opinion on the Vanguards and what GPH are you getting with the 20HP?
  2. Kanman

    Kanman LawnSite Member
    Messages: 5

    Very few issues with the engine itself. The valve covers stay eternally damp from oil seepage. Its not that they actually leak or drip, its almost like an osmosis thing where they stay just damp enough to always look dusty. There is probably an easy fix, but I have never taken the time to deal with it. Ive never touched anything other than filters and a couple of new batteries on that motor. [knock on wood] nothing ever needs replacing.

    I honestly don't have a good grasp on fuel consumption these days, since all I mow is my own property. Ten or fifteen gallons will last me the entire summer. Its comparing apples to oranges for commercial mowing, sorry I don't have better numbers for you.

    I've never regretted getting the Vanguard motor. Its a good starter in all temps. Doesn't get fussy with the choke position. From dead cold, even on hot days I choke for half a second while cranking. Soon as it hits I shut the choke off and shes ready to go. Shes not in the least bit cold blooded. Throttle up and go...

    I do run a mulch kit, and in very heavy wet grass its possible to lug the motor to the point where you might have to let up, or even stop to let the motor rpm catch back up. But, that in an extreme situation, and its the mulch kits fault not the engine. It just cant clean itself fast enough to keep up with the action.
  3. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
    Messages: 17,637

    I think the Vanguard is a great engine, and I'm not suprised you haven't had any real trouble from yours. BTW, all the Kohler's I've had with OH valves had sooty/seepage covered valve covers too. Not quite as bad with my Kawi's for some reason. These days I'd take a Vanguard as readily as I would a Kawi, and that's saying something for me because I've had extremely good luck so far with Kawi's. Not so much with Kohler anymore.
  4. Snapper Jack

    Snapper Jack LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 525

    Kanman ....Thank You!
  5. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,345

    Kanman...Thanks for the pics. She is in really nice shape for her age!
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  6. brian1425

    brian1425 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 131

    GMLC - have you had the chance to use the stander yet?
  7. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,345

    Not yet, sorry. The prototype I thought was for me was actually for the district manager. Mine should arrive in a couple weeks. Im looking forward to another review.
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  8. Kanman

    Kanman LawnSite Member
    Messages: 5

    Reading your post actually inspired me to get mine cleaned back up. Im actually going to see about re painting the underside of the deck.

    I wonder if the Gravely mechanics are kinda like the lonely Maytag repairmen. They dont know their customers, because they never see them after the original sale LOL. The local Gravely shop here does not know me from Adam.
  9. ProStreetCamaro

    ProStreetCamaro LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,289

    Got quotes for a 460 today.

    31hp $10,259 + tax
    27hp $9,894 + tax

    What do you guys think?
  10. sprinter

    sprinter LawnSite Member
    Messages: 110

    I think you should buy it and let me use it...

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