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I think the 27hp will do fine thats not going to stop me from buying this mower. I was very impressed with this new Gravely.:usflag:
I was thinking of buying a Pro Turn 260 with the KAW 31. I didn't know how it would do in wet grass though. I owned a 152z with the KAW 23 and it cut ok but it was pretty terrible bagging wet grass. It was nice for leaves though. The dealer wants 8g for it 8500 out the door after tax. Which is literally 2-3 grand less than comparable exmarks or scags.I demoed the pro turn 260 with a 27 hp Kawasaki and it had the x-factor deck. The deck stripped nice and had good discharge. There are some adjustments under the seat for the sticks that might help out the hydro. The gravely a high center of gravity which I didnt like. Also the deck kept jumping up like the machine was more ridged then my exmark or hustler. The deck was mounted on chains. They didn't have a 460 there to try but it might of made a difference.
I noticed and was turned off by the plastic tanks. I didn't have anything to compare it to and didn't know if this was normal on other brands as well. I did see them on BB and was also turned off by them. Being around Hustler so long with there big hydro system makes it look very cheap. I guess you need to be able to see the level. You'd think a aluminum finned tank with a sight glass would be the way to go unless this acts solely as a reservoir to hold fluid and hot fluid is not circulating back through it which I'm guessing is the case.I like this Gravely the best of the Gravely line, but Im surprised nobody is saying anything negative about those plastic hydro tanks. BadBoy used them first and everyone made negative comments about them.
I also like the solid deck hangers , another good idea by BB that was copied and improved by Gravely. Looks like Gravely has built a nice mower. Wish i could demo one someday.
Actually the plastic tanks work great if placed away from any major heat source like BB did on the Outlaws. Also its good to have separate tanks for each side in case of a failure. Time will tell on the Gravely as it is in a more confined area.I noticed and was turned off by the plastic tanks. I didn't have anything to compare it to and didn't know if this was normal on other brands as well. I did see them on BB and was also turned off by them. Being around Hustler so long with there big hydro system makes it look very cheap. I guess you need to be able to see the level. You'd think a aluminum finned tank with a sight glass would be the way to go unless this acts solely as a reservoir to hold fluid and hot fluid is not circulating back through it which I'm guessing is the case.
Can anyone tell me if there is one or more filters in the hydro system of the 400?
Two hydro filters I believe and remote hydro tanks are reservoirs that help with cooling.I noticed and was turned off by the plastic tanks. I didn't have anything to compare it to and didn't know if this was normal on other brands as well. I did see them on BB and was also turned off by them. Being around Hustler so long with there big hydro system makes it look very cheap. I guess you need to be able to see the level. You'd think a aluminum finned tank with a sight glass would be the way to go unless this acts solely as a reservoir to hold fluid and hot fluid is not circulating back through it which I'm guessing is the case.
Can anyone tell me if there is one or more filters in the hydro system of the 400?
The plastic Tanks shouldn't have but 1/2 inch of hyd oil in them. They are just for maintaining the proper oil level. The cooling fins on each unit do most of the cooling. Doesn't the Gravely use the Hydro Gear 5400 transaxles like the Outlaw?Two hydro filters I believe and remote hydro tanks are reservoirs that help with cooling.
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The xfactor will stay spotless clean until the paint wears off under the deck and even then it wont clog up to bad but it will require some cleaning at the end of the day if you cut in wet conditions. So far your thoughts on the xfactor are exactly like mine. It leaves a carpet smooth clean cut similar to an ultracut deck. I just wish they would make some adjustments to allow it to discharge straight out instead of down and out. It would reduce the need to double cut to clean up that line of grass that got thrown down in a skinny row on deep lawns. My new G6 blades show up today and I will put them to the test tomorrow so I will let you know how the xfactor does with them.Just want to give everyone a quick update. I have about a dozen cuts under my belt with the 452. I'm getting ready for my first oil change at 8 hours. I must say I'm still very impressed! I have cut enough dry lawns now to say the x-factor deck leaves an amazing cut which is much smoother than my scag velocity deck in dry conditions(even some customers have commented!). I still need more time in wet grass to give an honest opinion. So far I have not had to double cut, had no stringers, no clumping and the deck has stayed clean. My early feeling is the velocity has a better discharge pattern for these conditions due to the x-factor being more concentrated(but still powerful).
ProStreet, anxious for your feed back on the G6s on this machine. What size deck and engine are you running? I demoed a 460 yesterday and looked at the factory blades. Another option I believe would be the Oregon fusion notched high lifts. I has more cutting edge which has more of a bearing on lift than cut and the notch adds some additional turbulence under the deck IMO.The xfactor will stay spotless clean until the paint wears off under the deck and even then it wont clog up to bad but it will require some cleaning at the end of the day if you cut in wet conditions. So far your thoughts on the xfactor are exactly like mine. It leaves a carpet smooth clean cut similar to an ultracut deck. I just wish they would make some adjustments to allow it to discharge straight out instead of down and out. It would reduce the need to double cut to clean up that line of grass that got thrown down in a skinny row on deep lawns. My new G6 blades show up today and I will put them to the test tomorrow so I will let you know how the xfactor does with them.
mtmower, tomorrow I will take some pics of the bagging system for you. Yes there is a very heavy duty bar the surrounds the top of the bagger and it comes standard not an option. It gets covered by the cloth cover. I have the 24 hp kawi(27hp old rating) and have not had any power issues bagging or in thick grass.GMLC, Could you post a pic of the rear bracket mounted to the machine that the bagger attaches to? Also the rep said something about a bar that is mounted high and around the bagger to act like a bumper. Did you get this and just not mount it or is it optional? What engine are you running and how was the power with the bagger on hills?
No I'm not aware. Enlighten me.Oh mtmower, did the Gravely rep show you how the chute gets stored on the machine? I noticed in your review you mentioned you didnt know what to do with the chute off. Its another really cool feature.