Went to the Dane dealer in Indy todat and checked them out. I learned a lot about the mower, but I just don't know, they are salty.... I saw the Super Surfer 52" w/23hp Kaw for 6399.00 My biggest problem is with the small step you have to stand on. Any Dane guys/gals out there that have driven it, would have today, but too cold in indy ( per dealer )? I am looking for a great frontline for this spring and then use my current commercial as b/u, jic. I know everyone has thier own opin on mowers so concider this can o'worms opened up again LOL! BY the way buddy of mine just got a 52 Scap w/b w/100hrs for $3500 I say good deal, any else?