Stone, as usual you have opened your mouth before your ears. I don't spray chemicals but do use biological controls. We means the industry, not me personnally.<br>There are many companies making money by using organic methods, look around, and they are making money.<br>Second, who said I play golf? Chasing that stupid ball just ruins a good walk!<br>Stone, do you have any kids? Do you care about them as much as you care for fellow maintenance workers? I get ticked that others use chemicals and have no problem with the drift which blows all over me when I'm outdoors.<br>I have seen many applicators apply spray for cinch bugs because lawns may be infested. The contracts are drawn up in the spring before anyone knows what the season will bring. How are your contracts set up Larry? Do you only use chemicals as a last resort or "just in case" ?<br>Are you following good horticultural practices such as overseeding and applying low nitrogen fertilizer? Or are you stressing the lawn so that it is unable to fight back? We all know that a thick lawn cut at the right length is the best defence against weeds and needs less water. All I'm saying is lets look at the fundamentals before running to the big chemical companies whose goal is to sell lots of expensive crap we may or may not need.<br>Around here the Weedman is a major player and a major problem. The guys on the end of the hose aern't well trained, don't follow safe procedures and spray without thought. The high nitrogen fertilizer makes the lawn look great, but it then needs more water and the nitrogen runs off into the watersystem and adds to the algea. The farmers are using less herbicides and fertilizers than the lawn care industry, even golf courses have become more responsible. Many are Audobaun(sp) certified. Frankly I think our industry is twenty years out of date with our practices. Not all of us but some.<br>So Larry, if you don't make any decisions in your business strictly on the basis of profit and you follow good environmental practices, then I appologise to you and my hat goes off to you. If, however you have the disrespect for the earth that you have for us, then I hope you re-examine your business and try to be more responsible.