Gross profits per man

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by The Cowboy, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. The Cowboy

    The Cowboy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 617

    I am a small landscaper working solo about 45 hours per week average, with back up help (1 man) for about 30 hours. I grossed about 69,000 last year, and that was with a full school load two semesters with 30 combined semester hours.
    Is this reasonable for a small company? If the numbers seem low, it may be because of a severe drought we had last summer. I lost about 7 lawn cuttings.

    I am looking for some comparisons to see where I stand. Thanks guys.
  2. tiedeman

    tiedeman LawnSite Fanatic
    from earth
    Messages: 8,745

    What did you net?

    I feel that seems reasonable
  3. K.Carothers

    K.Carothers LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,124

    Hey Cowboy- those numbers suck. Maybe you should step it up this year. J/K

    You grossed more while going to school than a lot do with this being the only responsibility they have.
    Good job.

    Kc :waving:
  4. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
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    Ok I suppose with a helper for 2/3'rds of the time and you got over 3-4 years experience AND you're further north (meaning the prices are a bit higher), 69k sounds about right...

    I'm finishing my 4th year in lawncare. Far as the average work week if you figure 52 weeks/year, I might've worked 36 of those, at 60 / week... Guess that averages out to 41-42 hours/week.

    I'm about 1000 miles south of you, so prices likely drop 10% or thereabouts...
    I grossed 31k last year by myself, no help.

    So I would guess you're in the ballpark but much like the other guy said, I feel the urge to step things up, the figures DO suck thou on the other hand, it's the best I've ever done, too...

    Take the good and the bad, it averaged out to a pretty good year for me.
  5. rodfather

    rodfather LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,501

    69 grand for a 1 man band with some occassional help sounds pretty good to me.
  6. Mr.Mow-It-All

    Mr.Mow-It-All LawnSite Senior Member
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    Yeh that is about what I did with a helper only 1 day a week for about 20 weeks (about a 10 hour day), the other weeks didn't need the help, and it is my part job. (actualy 2nd job, not part time LOL). Sounds about right. Good job.

    This year it will be my only job and I have almost doubled my contracts and looking to hire 1 full time and maybee another to get more accounts.
  7. LawnscapeMN

    LawnscapeMN LawnSite Member
    Messages: 65

    I just had a quick question...How many lawns can be done in a day if they are just normal sized suburban lots....Cut, Trim, and blow. I am trying to figure out how many I can take on by myself full time this season and how many I can run with an employee. Thanks
  8. Roger

    Roger LawnSite Fanatic
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    Cowboy -- What do you mean by "lost 7 cuttings?" Do you mean you lost services for 7 lawns, not cutting them any longer at all for the drought time, plus the rest of the season? Or, do you mean that you lost a total of 7 cuttings as part of weekly cuts that you were expecting?

    If the second assumption is right, then I would say you did VERY well! I lost about 120-130 cuttings that I was expecting from regular customers. These were customers who were on a schedule, nearly all weekly cuttings. When the drought hit, many went to two weeks, some longer between cuttings.

    I think your income is pretty good considering working only a part of a week, plus a helper (45 hours is part of a week in my schedule). With the loss of so many cuttings, my 2005 sales were down considerably from 2004. I had planned on those 120 cuttings for a full season, but lost out.

    I expect to hear from others who will condemn for not having a monthly contract. None here, all work is on a task basis. None of my customers would ever consider a monthly fee, regardless of how much to mow. So, save the comments about how "you are not doing it right." I happy to have work, albeit not as much as I would like at drought times.
  9. rodfather

    rodfather LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,501

    In 12 straight full time years of this with now around 180 accounts, I have been asked ONLY ONCE for a monthly contract.
  10. The Ranger

    The Ranger LawnSite Member
    from NE Ohio
    Messages: 208

    It is not about how much you gross...its about how much you net and how much was you ROI. Return on investment.

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