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Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by Buck_wheat, Oct 29, 2010.

  1. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,553


    Are you some elitist valve snob?

    Rain Bird ASVF valves are the sturdiest most long lived valve of that kind I've run across to date.

    No solenoid cases splitting, never a failed solenoid in fact in the many years I've used them. Never a leak. Better than Irritrol or Hunter. The guts are the same as a DVF.

    These valves were in fine shape except for the glued threads. I salvaged the bonnets, guts, A/S caps and solenoids, though I'll probably never need them.

    Inline valves are not required by code or by climate where I live. Anti-siphon valves are easy to get to and work on, and they can be hidden well on most residential jobs.

    BTW, you use a Toro logo as your avatar, and dare talk about anything else as "trash"?

    Last edited: Aug 23, 2012
  2. irritation

    irritation LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,540

    Far from it, but if I see ASV's it's a hack system. Not only looks ugly but not to code and rest of the system is just as bad.

    My avatar is retro Toro, when they were the best at the time.
  3. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,553

    Some of the best designed systems I ran across when I got into this business 30+ years ago used A/S valves: brass Champion bodies with unions and Superior brass actuators.

    They have always been up to code here when correctly installed. Brass is generally too pricey now. The Rain Bird valve is a good, quality alternative.
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  4. jvanvliet

    jvanvliet LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,944

    Who the F does these jobs :dizzy:
  5. cjohn2000

    cjohn2000 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 570

    Next your going to tell me they ran out of the purple nonpotable pipe and decided to pour purple primer on the pvc instead.:rolleyes:
  6. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,553

    Another A/S valve problem, this time a Hunter.

    Never did find out why they stopped production of this one and came out with a six screw version, but maybe this leak around the flow control stem was typical?

    On the other hand, the bonnet and diaphragm fit the PGV 1" inline valve...

    I've encountered a lot of these out there. This was the worst leak though. Sat on the sunny southwest corner of a house. Maybe heated up too often?

  7. mrsteve

    mrsteve LawnSite Member
    Messages: 158

    It took awhile to show up, but a combination of primer and glue sitting too long in the pipe (on the original install) softened it. Then the pipe laying on rocks and high pressure made for a main leak. The pipe had swollen a bit and may have burst even if the rocks weren't there. It was at a bell connection but not on the bell side, as usually happens. Looking inside the pipe you could see where about three or four inches of glue had settled. Makes a good case for flushing the main.

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  8. irritation

    irritation LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,540

    Don't think flushing the main would help but makes a good case for being more careful with glue and primer.
  9. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,081

    mike leary is anal about primer and glue..........
  10. irritation

    irritation LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,540

    ouch, I'm not.

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