Hello, I'm a homeowner, not a pro, on a large city lot with plenty of trees. I've got mostly maples, some box elders and locust. We have plenty of flower beds and shrubberies. I clean up several yard of leaves every fall. I've been using a DR walk-behind leaf vac with the hose attachment. As other posters have pointed out, the vac gets heavy, and will leave ruts in the turf, so I've abandoned the use of the machine for lawn clearing, and now use an Echo backpack blower, which works great. Cleaning the flower beds and shrubs with the hose on the DR vac is time-consuming because I need to keep moving the machine around, and it doesn't shred the leaves down much. DR claims a 4:1 reduction. Now to the point of my post. I'm considering either the Stihl SH-86 or the Echo ES-255 as a vacuum/shredder choice. Does anyone have experience with either of these machines? Stihl claims a slightly better shred ratio (14:1 vs Echo's 12:1), but I suspect the difference is little or none, and the numbers are based more on marketing claims and subtle differences in testing. The list price on the Stihl is less. I've had great luck with Echo motors in the past, so that's a nod in their direction. Stihl has been known for chainsaws for decades - are their other tools as well made, or are they trading on their name? Thanks in advance for any knowledgeable opinions or experience. Tom p.s. the DR really excels in hard-surface cleaning. Anyone want a used machine with low hours in great condition? Any property managers with large parking lots out there? Seriously, I'm in Rochester, NY if anyone is interested.