Help with Overseeding Game Plan

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by c2weech, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. c2weech

    c2weech LawnSite Member
    Messages: 62

    In the next few weeks I plan to over seed a 30,000 sqft lawn.

    This is what I was thinking

    1.Apply Compost
    2. Aerate
    3. Overseed with Tall Fescue or Turf type tall fescue with about 10% KBG and possibly some dutch clover?

    Does this sounds like the appropriate order and what is a good app. rate for the compost how do I calculate this?

    Does anyone seed any clover in for its ability to naturally add nitrogen?

    This lawn is coming off drugs and going organic

    Any thoughts and advice are welcome

  2. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,115

    what a welcome sign that things are changing, yes clover is a great part of the lawn, unless someone is allergic to bees I think clover is great

    many of the sports turf guys we works with top dress first and then aerate, many others aerate first and then top dress, I think its 6 of one and half dozen of the other myself. If I was going to choose one I would top dress first

    one yard of compost will cover 1000 to 1500 sq ft in general

    once the seed uses up all of its stored energy it will need a little push into fall to get established well, you might think about a fish/kelp (nitrogen/potassium) with micronutrient application in a month or so
  3. Exact Rototilling

    Exact Rototilling LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,378

    Is this a residential lawn? The busy body neighbors :nono: might frown on it consider it an invasive weed.

    Personally I'm not opposed to an accent of clover in a lawn.
  4. c2weech

    c2weech LawnSite Member
    Messages: 62

    Thanks for the help great info. The only other thing, can anyone offer any advice on seed type is there a specific strain of tall fescue that is best and can I get it from local feed store or a big box like home depot or lowes

    thanks again
  5. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    What would be the advantage of putting the compost down first? Does it get into the holes as well as after plugging?
  6. OrganicsMaine

    OrganicsMaine LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 553

    I think that topdressing after you core aerate is better. However, the sports turf guys are probably using an aeravator which would press in through the compost and vibrate it down in a little better. Just thinking out loud, no experience with this!
  7. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,115

    they think it drives the compost down further in the soil, but if you look at golf courses they ALWAYS aerate first and top dress after, so do landscapers

    that is why I said, six of one half dozen of another
  8. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    I suppose it could be true, but I think I'll stick with the 6... or am I sticking with the half dozen... anyways I'm sticking to it...

    Thanks for the reply... :)
  9. NattyLawn

    NattyLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,643

    I tend to agree with OM and Axe. I would pull plugs then topdress.

    OP, most newer varieties of TTTF should be fine. Just steer clear of the K-31 fescue, which is the thick bladed stuff you see on most older lawns.
  10. phasthound

    phasthound LawnSite Fanatic
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