I've been a fairly consistent Burnout/Vinegar user for the last several seasons but this year Im starting to get a little chirping from customers I've been doing spot treatments for either in beds or lawns. We just haven't had many hot sunny days as of yet and the last couple of weeks it scarcely seems like we've had more than one or two days in a row without rain so lots of meticulously applied vinegar has gone for naught. In any case I got some herbicidal soap at a nursery just to give it a whirl and I was pleasantly surprised. Much faster knockdown on Creeping Charlie, Dandielion, Plantain, Oxalis, Poa Annua. Clear visible impact before I even got back in the truck. No effect at all on Clover though. Anybody else using this stuff in an organic program?? *Would* you use it in your organic program?