Hey Lawnsite: How about an update?

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    Landscape Lighting Lawn Care and Landscape business owners discuss Landscape Lighting, a growing segment of the Green Industry and a great add-on service!

    Ok, don't you guys think we have been at this long enough, and displayed enough knowledge and professionalism to warrant a change in the outdated, clunky, and factually incorrect forum heading? I sure do.

    Clearly the vast majority of regular contributors to this forum are not "Lawn Care & Landscape business owners" who think of Lighting as a "great add-on service".

    So how about updating this forum heading. It really is demeaning.
  2. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,173

    Your right. I agree on a change. This is factually inacurate with the representation here.
  3. TXNSLighting

    TXNSLighting LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 6,464

    Ill agree here!
  4. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,553

    You know of course James that lighting continues to be sold as an additional "profit center"...

    Ewing for instance held a seminar with that as the topic last week in Santa Cruz, CA.

    In fact when I enrolled in a joint KKW (distributor at the time) and Nightscaping seminar in 1989 it was sold to me that way too.

    Maybe in other areas where the growing season is shorter there are more lighting specialists. Here in California it's harder to be a "one trick pony", especially in a tough economy. I suspect that the vast majority of lighting installers are C-27s (licensed landscape contractors).

    I think that you're off the mark as far as how many who contribute to this forum do "lighting only". Conduct a poll if you like.
  5. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    You know Gregg, you might just be right. There may be more numbers of landscapers and irrigators and such who offer LV outdoor lighting systems in their product/service mix then there are "lighting only" operators... but I wonder if you compared volume who is doing more lighting? I would suspect the small handfull of lighting only contractors here in my Province outstrip the total sales of lighting done by the one stop shop operators by a large percentage.

    I just think it is time for the green industry to stop thinking of Outdoor LV Lighting Systems as a convenient "Add on service". I would suspect that most members of the AOLP might support me in this desire too. We have all seen the effects generated and the quality of the systems installed by those who view Outdoor Lighting as an "Add on service". (There are, as always, exceptions to the rule.)

    In the end, the Heading used by Lawnsite for this particular forum is not very representative of the people who regularly participate here.

    Have a great day.
  6. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,933

    I had never even noticed that header until you brought it up...............
  7. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
    from usa
    Messages: 1,988

  8. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,553

    You are probably right. And especially so as regards lighting on structures or beyond easy ladder reach.
  9. Malibu landscape

    Malibu landscape LawnSite Member
    Messages: 37

    My guess is that distributors probably make more sales to so called one stop shops combined than to lighting only contractors. At least around here I'm sure. I don't know of many lighting only companies here.

    If I'm correct I doubt that you'd get much support from that organization if it's made up of manufacturers and distributors and one stop shops. Just my humble opinion though.
  10. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,553

    Of course that depends on which kind of distributor you use. Lighting manufacturers distribute through irrigation supply houses, but also through electrical distributors.

    There are probably more electricians than you realize installing low voltage outdoor lighting. And I'll bet a lot of the "lighting only" guys go through distributors with an online presence like Terradek, FOLD, CLL, etc.

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