Just landed a nice 45 acre job with the highest bid. I have seen a million low ball threads on this site, but in reality, one sometimes has to push the envelope slightly into the lowball area to get a foot in the door. I did that the first year (still netted 60%) on a couple of commercials, and as a result was able to establish a reputation as to quality curb trimming, timliness, attention to detail etc. Now, the opportunities that come up are opportunities that have suffered from low bidders that over extended themselves, or did not have the quality mowers necessary to complete the task on a timely basis. Also see a lot of $1 per minute stuff. We shoot for $1.50 per minute, not thru bidding by the hour, but by figureing ways to get that much production done at the going per acre rate in this area. My wife and I will be mowing 160 acres per week this coming summer, part time, and I have a nice contract in the wings that will expire next fall, that will put us at 200 per week, and that will be a nice full time mowing experience.