HIghest quality fertilizer?

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by Gebo, Sep 22, 2003.

  1. Gebo

    Gebo LawnSite Member
    from VA
    Messages: 7

    I take care of about 3 acres of grass. pH is 6.8-7.1 and it is all covered in TAll FEscue. My last soil analysis said to only add nitrogen. P and K were Very High.

    I have searched for 3 hrs on this board and am tired of looking. IS there a general consensus as to which companies make the highest quality fertilizer? I'm not gonna re-hash what all I've read. I've used Rainbow Agricultural, Par Ex, IBDU and Sulfur Coated Urea, and Urea. I only fertilize in the fall from Sept to Dec. I go for 3lb N/1000 total. Where I've been going has changed and depending on who's working, I get different answers. I went last week to buy some for fert for fall app and because it was a "show" setup, I ended up talking with 3 different people at different times with the same company an got 3 different answers. If I were to ask you as a professional, what would you say? SHould I just say, "PHOOEY," spit and go follow the Scott's program?
  2. GeorgiaGrassMan

    GeorgiaGrassMan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 147

    Was there a HUGE amount of difference in what the 3 people you talked to recommended or just minor variations? I wouldn't agonize over it too much. Scotts always worked good for me, but now that I'm looking at it from a business perspective, it seems awfully expensive.
  3. Gebo

    Gebo LawnSite Member
    from VA
    Messages: 7

    Well, one said to use a slow release and another said to use a quick release and the other guy was selling me the only one he knew anything about. WHen I asked him about the slow release vs the quick release he started to go and get one of the guys I had already talked to so I said, "I'll just take the one you recommend.":(
  4. shm

    shm LawnSite Member
    Messages: 118

    Scotts is a good benchmark for the average homeowner to care for his or her lawn...it's also a good benchmark for the professional as well...the 4 step program is a good one although it is a little expensive....you can sometimes get contractor grade or special pricing from a dealer and ask specifically for scotts products...they should help you out
    i'd genreally go with a quick release if i am establishing a lawn and a slow release with an already existing lawn...a starter fert is a good example of this

    hope this helps

  5. Hamons

    Hamons LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 706

    A very good qulaity fertilizer is Roots products. You can find them at www.Rootsinc.com

    If i could figure out how to make money using roots for all of my customers -- I would definitely do it.

    They are expensive though. 3 acres would cost you an arm and a leg -- but you would be putting very high quality stuff down.

    Sustane also make sa good product. More reasonable then roots.
  6. Grassmechanic

    Grassmechanic LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,697

    Blue Chip nitroform or Nutralene
  7. lars

    lars LawnSite Member
    Messages: 117

    This definitely depends on what you want to do. The ideal way to fertilize grass is to give it a little at a time for most of the year. This can be done with a slow release nitrogen source or a spoon-feeding program with soluble nitrogen (urea). If you want to go the slow relase route, go with organics (Nature Safe), or IBDU, a product that I strongly recommend. It sounds like you have used it since you mentioned ParEx. IBDU can be placed down at a high rate and will feed over a period of 16 weeks or so, although it takes a few weeks to activate. You will only need 2 apps a year, and you could easily put down 3 lbs in one application. IBDU is also the best fertilizer for a dormant application. In my opinion SCU/PCU urea is not as good. It does release over time, but depends on the quality of the coating.

    Spoon-feeding works if you want to keep up with it, as you have great control as to how much N you want to apply. Of course urea is cheap and predictible, but plan to lose half of it due to volitization. That said, calibrate, double-check, and go at it.
  8. Grassmechanic

    Grassmechanic LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,697

    The problem with IDBU, is that it releases nitrogen every time it rains or it is watered. If you get a lot of rain, you're getting a lot of nitrogen release. IDBU is more suited for golf courses, because they water generally every night. Nutralene will release over a 16 week period also, and with more control than IDBU. For a homeowner, Nutralene would be the best, followed by BC Nitroform, then Poly coated. But I also agree, if the person has the time to do it, spoon feeding is a very good method.
  9. Green in Idaho

    Green in Idaho LawnSite Senior Member
    from Idaho
    Messages: 833

    That is like asking which company makes the highest quality car?

    Rather than which company, focus on what you want. You mentioned you want only N. So find a product that is something like 6-0-0. The NPK ratio is more important for YOU than who makes it.

    Then ask yourself if you want slow or quick release?
    Organic or chemicals?
    Liquid or granule?
    Supplemental nutrients or just N?

    So the name on the bag is NOT as important as what is IN the bag. A 18-3-3 urea from Scotts is going the be the same urea as the 18-3-3 bag with Joes on the label.

    Where you are only applying once per year slow release is the best for you. But only once per year is NOT the best for the lawn.

    Quick release is like when you have the in-laws are coming in town in two weeks and your lawn looks pale and you know the old man is gonna bitc about the lawn the grand-kids are playing on. :cry:

    Quality turf starts with feeding the soil(grass). If you were feeding your kids, what would you look for in the food?
  10. Gebo

    Gebo LawnSite Member
    from VA
    Messages: 7

    :D :D :(

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