Hiring or firing because the employee possesses a medical marijuana card.

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by jmkr02, Sep 27, 2013.

  1. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
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    Yep it stays in your system for 2 weeks.
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  2. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Or, again, do as I do and simply do not hire Americans. Then it's a non-issue.

  3. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
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    When did "pot smoker" become a protected class?
  4. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
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    Welcome to the new world
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  5. Chilehead

    Chilehead LawnSite Bronze Member
    Male, from Stockbridge, GA
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    I can personally attest to this liability.....
    Several years ago, I hired a guy to help me with my maintenance accounts. One day he comes into work a bit out of sorts. He was coherent, but was acting like he had just woken up. I asked him if he was okay, and he brightened up real quick. While out working, he came within 1/2" of plowing into a natural gas meter with my big mower at full speed. When I saw it happen, I just about died. Long story short, he was smoking weed earlier that day--he got terminated.
    Had he hit that pipe on the meter (and sheared it), there would have been a fireball the size of a semi. The neighborhood was a cluster home community with no more than 5' between houses, so many would have likely burned down. My $2M in liability insurance wouldn't have even covered half the damages.
    Moral of the story: if you use any substance that causes impairment of motor skills, you won't have a job with me.
  6. Groomer

    Groomer LawnSite Bronze Member
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    DVS the stereotype guy?
    My buddy has a landscape biz with a crew of 5.
    They all smoke weed, but never on the job.
    They are all "American" (which I take by that you mean caucasian?)
    They all have a very good work ethic and do extremely talented work, from landscape to hardscape.
    Lucky guy he is, huh?
  7. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    I guess whatever floats his boat.

    Just cause people do what they do doesn't make them automatically bad workers

    It's when something happens that one must be ready for
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  8. XYZLawnPros

    XYZLawnPros LawnSite Senior Member
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    To the original poster jmkr02.
    A simple google search looking for the answers for your state(Michigan), pulled up over 50 sites dealing with "Labor". State sites, federal sites, U.S. sites etc. on and on and on. You choose to use "their system" it is upon you to do the information gathering. So it sounds like you have a lot of reading to do to figure out what it is you want answered from your legal, ordinance, statutory form of employer you are.

    Jmkr02 you said "I think Federal trumps state". Wrong so absolutely wrong. Federal is a de jure form of government.

    In my opinion and in my survival operation I would decline from adding any individual that does "drugs". We decline smokers as well. We have a long list and I do not give 2 sh!ts what someone else says. It isn't hard to understand. You or anybody who "burns" anything and inhales it into their body on purpose is extremely incompetent.

    No one has any authority to tell me how to run my "competent" survival operation.

    I'll await your conclusions original poster jmkr02. Get on it. Read.
  9. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes LawnSite Fanatic
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    Oh boy, just wait til the resident socialists\marxists here on LS read that.
  10. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Lemme guess.....you're the middle child??


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