I'm in the east Texas area and am just starting out, I'm really looking for guidance and advice here. I know this is a lawn site and the job I bid was fencing, but the concepts I'm asking for advice on are interchangeable. As well if like your input from a consumer prospective. I was contacted today by a man wanting 600 ft of fencing put in, path cleared, t posts a welded wire roll fencing. 1 x 15ft tractor gate on 4x4 post, all the materials are customer supplied. I figured myself and my two helpers will be in for a solid two days work +/-. I'm estimating 60 labor hrs for the fence, 5.5 hrs for the gate, and he aslo asked for delivery of the materials. Which is a 60 miles round trip, requires a trailer, and probably 3 hours of my time, I quoted $250 (don't really care to get the delivery). My helpers have experience and I figure them at $15 an hr. It's my understanding you double your helps rate for the rate you bill. I charged the same rate for myself. This is 60 hrs at $30 per labor hour. I quoted him $1800 for the fence and offered the gate for $250. After submitting my bid, he asked if this was including materials (he sent me a screenshot with his materials list at Lowe's calculated to $1900 ) and I explained to him the cost was for labor only, the rolled wire takes more time to stretch and get straight than running slick wire or even welded wire panels. He never responded. My question is to you in your opinion is my math off? Am I just shooting way too high for the billed rate per man hour? Does the estimate on hours seem off to you. Would this seem off putting to you in anyway? My rates reflect the lower end of reported ranges for labor only on these types of installs, and im not really wanting to sell myself cheap. I feel i got it right but I need to be willing to take the no to get the yeses. This is my first bid, so Any advice no matter how critical, please and thank you (ps the 15per hr is because the guy wants this started and finish within the next four days, I am having to get my help from a few friends who have full time jobs and need a little more greasing due to the last minute nature.