Homeowners Association

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Bull, Dec 19, 2004.

  1. Bull

    Bull LawnSite Senior Member
    from NC
    Messages: 308

    I am hoping to bid on a 48 unit complex after the first of the year. This is a new development and they are in the process of forming the association. I am wanting to compile a list of all of the things that many of you may provide to a group like this. They pretty much want a complete package such as snow removal, mow, shrub maintenance, annuals around the main entrance and so on. I feel like my application program will need to be flexible somewhat as to weather or not they want the full package or if their requirements will be less. Hopefully I would have some influence on that as I present the package. Can you list some things that I may overlook that differs from a standard residential property?
  2. Ecobjs

    Ecobjs LawnSite Member
    Messages: 55

    Here is is what is in our typical package (for the clients that have no idea what they want). Mow, trim, blow off hard surfaces, leaf removal, bed weeding control. Spray program for lawn and plants, Small tree pruning (under 15ft), plant pruning, mulch for the beds (this may be seperate depending on thier needs), Sprinkler systems start-up and shut down, annual color twice a year. No Snow removal here. Everything else is extra. Hope that helps.

    And I should add that we try never to use this basic package since clients may get tons of bids and they are then comparing Apples to Nuts, For instances our bid may be 20K over or under the others depending of the services offered. We really try and train the client of the services offered compared to the price.

    TURF DOCTOR LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,138

    HOA are a pain,you will have different people on the board every year.get a high price and stick to it.
  4. brinlee lawn

    brinlee lawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 273

    Turf doctor is right h.o.a. are a pain, make it worth your while
  5. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,969

    Any time you deal with a committee, you have problems. Let alone a committee that changes from year to year. Now HOA go two ways. First is the BMW thinking that is very rare, They want everything first class and are willing to pay a fair price. However Most times you will run into the Bean Counter Mentallity that wants it done cheap.

    This last year I was hired by one committee with BMW thinking, but the committee changed and Bean Counters came into power. After the hurricane blew their condo apart they expected me to repair everything at no additional charge. Needless to say they are no longer my customer. I had 4 months left on the contract and they made my life a nightmare with BS.
  6. rgjlawn

    rgjlawn LawnSite Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 84

    HOA are a pain in the a__ new members every year or two and they know a buddy that can do it cheaper. :realmad: been in this for 27 years weeded out all HOA that price shop every year.
  7. naturescaretaker

    naturescaretaker LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 854

    As of December 31 we will end our contract with the last HOA we have. It was a 3 year contract and they wanted to renew it. I said no. There is no way and not enough money to make us deal with HOA's again. Apt. complexs are great. All other business is great. But not HOA's. To many chiefs and they all want something extra for themselves.
  8. Shuter

    Shuter LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,171

    I am currently , and for the past 5 years, servicing 2 HOA with 8 common areas for maintenance. These are single family homes, not condos. They are a pain is th butt because of the different people on the boards. It is easy work with good money. Good out weighs the bad.
  9. Tn Lawn Man

    Tn Lawn Man LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 479

    You said you were bidding on a 48 unit complex. Get ready for 48+ different bosses.

    Everybody wants things done differently and something "special" for themselves.

    I would pass.
  10. ed2hess

    ed2hess LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,567

    These types of accounts are not mow/blow/go accounts you have to work the directors a lot! Once you can get a foothold into this type of account there is a lot of extra money to be made. You have to bid carefully because price is the only thing on start-up. Most of the time you work for a property manager and he controls what you include in the bid. Try to keep flowers, mulch, insect spraying, and irrigation on a as requested. For example we quote flowers at $25/tray, mulch at $3 per bag, irrigation repair at $35/hr, etc. You are toast if they want everything included in the bid. We had one account that wanted everything included...even anticipated irrigation repair, and dead plants replaced etc.

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