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Honda 21"

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Scag48, Jul 12, 2000.

  1. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,067

    Hey all. Just found out that the mower I borrow to mow with quit working. Again! I have been looking at alot of different mowers but I think my best shot is a 21". I guess I can't put it off any longer, I NEED A MOWER! I have looked a Toro, John Deere, and Honda. I have considered all quite a bit but I keep bouncing between the three. Toro's are good and my dad swears by them (don't know why, just a homeowner model), John Deere's are pretty good but they don't offer a Briggs engine (I think). I know Honda has a great engine but I'm not familiar with the cutting quality, etc.. Are the commercial 21"s really worth 1K? That's what they sell them for around here. And could I get away with using a Harmony? This would be my main mower (pretty lame huh?). I have thought that in a couple of years when and if I get a bunch of lawns, having the commercial model would be better for the situation. If I had the rezzie model, I'd have to sell it I guess and I have to go through buying a mower all over again. So would I be better off buying a commercial to start with to save aggrevation?
  2. Rufur

    Rufur LawnSite Member
    from md
    Messages: 143

    be sure to check the differencesd between the commercial and residential mower of the same brand sometimes the commercial mower just has better tires or something trivial 1 k sounds high they are 6-700 at lowes or home depot I had a harmony reason I like my toro better is the harmony's deck deck is bulky and takes up space I dont know if its true but Ive heard rumors that you're paying for better environmentally safe engines with the honda vs. a 200$ mower...right now Im using a toro personal pace and like it alot gives you alot more control of the mower
  3. little green guy

    little green guy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 955

    Hey, If i where you instead of spending 1k on a chessy 21" mower I would get at least a 36" mower or bigger. You can buy a used one in decent shape for about 1200 or sometimes less. I would never spend that much on a 21" mower that's cazy considering what you can get for the same price. If you realy want a 21" though I think exmark makes one. Also you said something about JD not offering Briggs, In my opinion briggs motors are junk and I would never buy another one.good luck
  4. Likestomow

    Likestomow LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,000

    I just bought a Lawn Boy Gold Series 21&quot; mower and really love the way it cuts. It has 3 speeds and the top speed is a very fast walk... as fast as I want to go. The power is great -- haven't made it bog down yet, even in really high grass.<p>I use mine for ditches (it's a two cycle) and small areas in an apartment complex. <p>It only cost me $525 and carries a full 3 year warranty on the whole mower except for the belt and blade.<p>I can lift it off and on my trailer much easier and faster than fooling with a 36&quot; walk-behind. For me it's just right.
  5. Keith

    Keith LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,003

    The walkbehind would be better, but I think transport is an issue for Scag48. Putting a 350lb walk behind in the vehicle is probably a little difficult. :)<p>I did buy a new Toro Commercial 2 cycle in 1987 ($600)and lasted probably well over 2000 hours and never really quit, went through a few transmissions. I bought another in 95 ($900) and it wasn't the machine the 87 was. Whether it was just a lemon or what I don't know. I gave up on it since it was merely a trim mower. So I have a mixed opinion about the Toro 21&quot;. I probably would be willing to try another if I really needed a 21&quot; <p><p><p><font size="1">Edited by: Keith
  6. TGCummings

    TGCummings LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 773

    If it's a 21&quot;, I'd suggest the Toro Proline for around 1K. I've tried several models (though not the new Honda Commercials), and the Recycler version of the Proline is the best I've ever used. I just upgraded to a 36&quot; Exmark but my ol' Toro still gets more of a workout while I adjust to the size and manageability of the big gun. <p>Been using 21&quot; six years myself and 17 years total and the Toro's the best so far...<p>-TGC
  7. gusbuster

    gusbuster LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,010

    I've been mowing lawns since age 8 and only have used 19&quot; or 21&quot; mowers the last 29 years. I’ve used Lawnboy, Toro, Snapper, and now Honda's. Anything that is truly commercial grade mower your going to pay between $700-over $1000.I would check out this site: http://alamia.com they carry Honda, Snapper, Lawnboy. For example, they have a commercial 21&quot; Lawnboy model # 22261,self-propelled and free shipping going for $685. As long as you don't live in Colorado, no sales tax.<p>One thing that i have seen in the past, who's going to fix your machine if it breaks down? What I am trying to say if possible, buy from your local machine supplier. They don't make that much money off of your sale. Where they make their money is on repairs. They're going to service a machine that was purchased from them faster than a machine that was purchased at Home Depot or some other store.<p>Myself, I have bought a Lawnboy from alamia.com and I’m very happy with my machine. In California, at least in my area, nobody carries Lawnboy;s anymore. I also just ordered a Honda from my local supplier. It’s going to run me over $1200 for all the accessories that I’m getting. (Extra blades, mulching kit etc..)<br>John<p>----------<br>J-LC Landscaping & Maintenance Gardening<br>C-27 Ca Contr# 770044
  8. OP

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,067

    Littlegreenguy-I don't know if you have read any of my posts or not but trying to find used mowers that are in my price range is very difficult. I wish I could find an Exmark 36&quot; used. I think that would be best. For a new 32&quot; Metro my dealer wants $1,999! He told me MSRP was about $2,300. I wanted it so bad but guess what dad said. 80)
  9. little green guy

    little green guy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 955

    hey scag48 i have read every one of you posts. My first mower was a used 1992 exmark belt drive w/14 vanguard engine that I bought from another landscaper in town that i know. I bought it for $600.00. The only thing I did to it was new tires, belts and blades. That mower runs just as good as my other ones do. I think a used mower would be ideal for you instead of messing around with a 21&quot;mower. Like i told you in the post about getting jobs, talk to the other landscapers in your town an see if they got anything they want to sell. If you absolutly can't find anything good don't spend 1k on a 21&quot;, spend a couple of hundred and save the money so you can buy a bigger mower when youget enough money. You do not need a commercail 21&quot; for a couple lawns a week.my two cents hope it helps.
  10. KirbysLawn

    KirbysLawn Millenium Member
    Messages: 3,485

    I totally agree with the above. I think most decent landscapers would help you out with info and maybe have equipment also. Check and ask, make a few calls, you never know what may happen.

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