I just bought a Honda 4514/14hp/42" deck and Cub Cadet 2164/16hp Vanguard/42" deck. Intended on repairing minor issues with both mowers then keep one for myself. I used the Cub first and it mows and operates great. The next week I mowed my yard with the Honda. Lord have mercy!!! That is the strongest 14hp motor I have ever used!!! It will cut circles around the 16hp Vanguard. Don't get me wrong the Vanguard is sweet, powerful and smooth - until you use the Honda. It is incredible. If the Vanguard is a true 16hp, then the Honda is somewhere around 30hp?, 40hp? who knows.........?