Did a little up lighting on a Howard Johnson while we were in Pasadena last week. Also changed out the wall sconces to these from Kichler. The up lights we did are only the columns, not the lights in the middle. Some of the middle fixtures were bad sockets and others were burned out. They did not want to do more. We used 12.4 watt Kichler LED on 6" extensions. I think we made a difference, but it is an example of not getting the entire job and people thinking you did not do it correctly when they see your work. You inherent the stuff you did not do as well.