thelawnguy and I have similar pricing, other than the fact I don't do snow. If I priced a "reasonable" hourly rate, I'd price myself too low. My efficiency is what earns me the high rate, much as I'm sure Bill's efficiency does for him.<p>If you have slow laborers or yourself are not a hustler, you may not be able to make as much hourly as some of us.<p>As Bill says it is not important that you quote an hourly rate to a customer. Most would laugh if I asked for the hourly rate I make. Therefore, I price by the job, rather than by the hour. I still figure my hourly rate, but don't share it with the customer. They don't really stop to think about the time involved. If pric is within budget, amongst a couple other minor factors, the price will be accepted.<p>John