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How big a truck to pull a10,000 gvw dump trailer?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by CharlieBingo, Jun 19, 2004.

  1. CharlieBingo

    CharlieBingo LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 400

    I've got a 3\4 and a 1 ton pickup. I'm not sure if they can pull this? There gvw's are 76000 and 9600 respectivily.

    PMLAWN LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,534

    Look at the door sticker for GCVW. With a larger V8 and a auto trans you should be alright but check the rating.
  3. CharlieBingo

    CharlieBingo LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 400

    So the gcvw is differen't from the gvw?

    G&S LANDSCAPING LawnSite Member
    Messages: 28

    :D I tow my dump trailer with a 3500 one ton, dually, v- 10 with a 5-speed trans. with no prolbems at all . Lots of torque.:D
  5. EagleLandscape

    EagleLandscape LawnSite Platinum Member
    Male, from Garland, Texas
    Messages: 4,350

    Are you driving a dodge pickup?
  6. szwedj

    szwedj LawnSite Member
    Messages: 7

    gcvw is gross combined vehicle weight. It is truck and trailer combined weight.

  7. twwlawn

    twwlawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 283

    I pull my 10,000 GVW dump trailer with a F250 PS and I also use a weight distributing hitch.
  8. One Timer

    One Timer LawnSite Member
    from iowa
    Messages: 17

    Your problem isn't pulling, its stopping it under all conditions,like rain,snow etc
  9. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    It doesn't matter if you can have the power to pull it if you can't stop it you shouldn't be pulling it. I know a guy with a Dodge 2500 2wd Cummins he's pulling a heavy load all the time everytime I see him he has troubles stopping :rolleyes:

    Personally I don't trust those electric trailer brakes it only takes one wire to short out and you got no brakes or your brake controller decides it doesn't want to work and your screwed.

    There is no hope in hell a 3/4s tons brakes are going to stop a 10,000lb trailer safely if the trailer brakes failed.

    My brother and I did a job for a guy to move a 1 ton dually on a car trailer the truck weighed 7000lbs or so I don't know what a tandem axle car trailer weighs must be 2000lbs atleast so the trailer was grossing 9000lbs.

    We were pulling the trailer with a 95 F-350 srw 4x4 PSD the truck had enough power to pull but not enough brakes to stop. The brakes on the 350 were so hot you couldn't even touch the front or rear wheels after going down the hills here. The brakes on the trailer are weak but work some but not enough to keep the brakes on the truck from smoking.

    The F-350 is a automatic so we went down hills in first gear and used the brakes lightly to controll the speed also kept a large following distance. If we went down the hills in drive and tried using the trucks brakes to keep a safe speed you would have the front brake rotors cherry red.

    The only semi reliable brake system for a heavy trailer that is pulled behind a truck with juice brakes a vacuum over hydraulic. The only way I would pull a heavy trailer with electric brakes is with a bigger truck with bigger brakes. To safely stop a 10,000lb trailer would need a F-450 Ford even then you will smoke the brakes.

    For flatlanders that don't know what hills are don't need brakes but when your decending 10-12% grades some are slightly steeper you need good brakes.
  10. amw

    amw LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 410

    Gravel Rat
    In some/most states you HAVE to have electric brakes
    on commercial trailers
    if you mantaine your equipment properly you will not have a prob.
    also you "should" have brakes on all 4 tires,
    I use electric brakes and have for years and they work fine, great even.. i can stop my 9000lb truck and 10,000lb trailer with just my trailer brakes ...also a BIG dif. between them working good or not is the brake controler being ajusted properly.

    Besides all that they wouldnt be US DOT approved if they were not safe...

    99% of the probs. with electric brakes is the owner not maintaining them properly!!

    and yes i have driven over hills AND mountains and they work great their too!

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